Weird effect: help needed

**Monkwarrior** · 11-15-2007, 09:54

Hi
Again a request of help for one of my "weird" problems.

In some I see this effect on battle:

The images correspond to two different battles.

Conditions for this effect:
- Only observed when fighting against rebels of one given culture.
- Only observed on the model of an official when it is dead.
- Not observed each time this official dies. Only in some cases.
- Only observed at certain distance and with certain angle.
- The model for this official is used also for at least two playable factions and the effect has not been observed (but it doesn't mean that it doesn't occur)

I've checked the 3D model one trillion times and I cannot find any problem with it. I've imported all the "dead animations"

and I haven't observed any effect in 3ds max.

Any idea?
Could it be something related to vegetation sprites or models? (hypothesis to explain the apparent aleatory character of the effect

)

**satanea juda** · 11-17-2007, 02:49

It's a lose (unconected) verticle on a model, I've seen it a few times and it's always been the same thing, you might not see it in max because it's inside the model (I've had that a couple of times)...The game is trying to attach the texture to a single verticle and that's the effect (flaring)..If you can't find the lose vert the model is usless and you'd be better off making a new one.

This guy had the same problem.

**Monkwarrior** · 11-17-2007, 11:11

Originally Posted by satanea juda

It's a lose (unconected) verticle on a model, I've seen it a few times and it's always been the same thing, you might not see it in max because it's inside the model (I've had that a couple of times)...The game is trying to attach the texture to a single verticle and that's the effect (flaring)..If you can't find the lose vert the model is usless and you'd be better off making a new one.

This guy had the same problem.

Thanks.
I've found several unconnected vertex in different parts of the model. I've eliminated all of them (I hope) and in the first test the model looks OK. In any case, it is difficult to demonstrate the lack of this effect (Occam dixit), but for the moment it works.

@Red Spot

Yeah!

**satanea juda** · 11-17-2007, 15:50

Ah right, glad you fixed it, sometimes they're a bugger to find and you'll spend as much time looking as it would take to knock a new model together, but at least in the future you'll know what your looking for.

**Monkwarrior** · 11-20-2007, 00:33

Well, finally the problem was not solved:

In this case, even the weird figure floating in air had movement, like a flag.

The most embarrasing point

is that the problem and the solution had been reported... BY ME.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=171

The number of elements in this model was 14. The solution has been the elimination of three elements: feathers attached to helmet, one sword as secondary weapon (not necessary) and the shoulder pads (hidden by cloak).

**satanea juda** · 11-21-2007, 02:17

Hmm, if it was moving like a flag I would think something was connected to the cloak bone, it's the only bone that has that movement, most likely the shoulder pads, "and the shoulder pads (hidden by cloak)."...