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    sorry to go off topic here, but an educated barbarian needs your sage advice. from whats been posted regarding the punic wars, i get the impression the carthaginians lost the second war. i though they won the second war, since the romans finally crushed them in the third! is it just that hannibal was around in the third and the tide turned? sorry if i seem like an idiot, i try to go by my common sense, but ocassionally it needs fine-tuning.
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    After the end of the 2nd war, Carthage effectively became a Roman protectorate, greatly reduced in power. And Romans don't lose wars (generally...), that's why people hate them. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long lost Caesar
    sorry to go off topic here, but an educated barbarian needs your sage advice. from whats been posted regarding the punic wars, i get the impression the carthaginians lost the second war. i though they won the second war, since the romans finally crushed them in the third! is it just that hannibal was around in the third and the tide turned? sorry if i seem like an idiot, i try to go by my common sense, but ocassionally it needs fine-tuning.
    They lost - quite decisively. Had Hannibal been given what he requested in the form of support and troops it might have been different but even then only *might* as it all becomes speculative.

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    so cannae was a battle of the third punic war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long lost Caesar
    so cannae was a battle of the third punic war?
    No. Second.

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    Why hate? They didn't do anything to you.

    I don't hate any faction except of... uh... no, unfortunately there is no despite for anyone, sry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palasta
    Why hate? They didn't do anything to you.

    I don't hate any faction except of... uh... no, unfortunately there is no despite for anyone, sry.
    Well, in the case of the Romans you could argue that they DID do something to you (well, your ancestors) if your Jewish, German, English, Greek (and the list goes on.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starforge
    Well, in the case of the Romans you could argue that they DID do something to you (well, your ancestors) if your Jewish, German, English, Greek (and the list goes on.)
    If that would be a reason to be mad, we should be mad at: Romans, Franks, Vikings, French, Germans, Spanish, Dutch, French, Austrians, French and Dutch. Can you guess the country?
    Really, how could anyone be mad at something that happened to your ancestors 2000 odd years ago?

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    Belgian, I take it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus
    If that would be a reason to be mad, we should be mad at: Romans, Franks, Vikings, French, Germans, Spanish, Dutch, French, Austrians, French and Dutch. Can you guess the country?
    Really, how could anyone be mad at something that happened to your ancestors 2000 odd years ago?
    Your point is spot on but completely beside the point since we're talking about personal feelings tied to one's own ancestry. In an abstract and maybe evolutionary way it's like harming ones family (regardless that it was in the distant past.) Rationalizing feelings gets pretty murky .

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    Well its just my opinion but none the less. I think the world would be more interesting if the Celts had just killed off all of the Romans in 390 B.C. Christianity probably would of never taken off as it did. That alone would change quite a lot of history right there; Crusades being the most obvious one. A lot of us would probably be sporting long hair and a mustache, also if I remember right, a belt tax would still be around:P
    Probably still be in Tribal and Clan family structures. War seasons would still be in fashion:P I don't know about you guys but the concept of cattle raiding to gain riches would certainly make for a interesting and fast paced life lol.

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    Hannibal was a great commander, but as was said on him, " He knew how to win a battle, but not how to win a war". To finish off the romans he needed to besiege and capture Rome, and that would have been a long struggle, knowing that the romans had a policy of no peace terms without total victory. Even if the Poeni would have send more aid to Hannibal, Rome's former allies would still not trust him and maybe with time would ally with Rome again, to kick the foreign invader out of Italia. Rome was choosen by the almighty God to earn its place in history, and history is written by the victor, hate him or love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
    Hannibal was a great commander, but as was said on him, " He knew how to win a battle, but not how to win a war". To finish off the romans he needed to besiege and capture Rome, and that would have been a long struggle, knowing that the romans had a policy of no peace terms without total victory. Even if the Poeni would have send more aid to Hannibal, Rome's former allies would still not trust him and maybe with time would ally with Rome again, to kick the foreign invader out of Italia. Rome was choosen by the almighty God to earn its place in history, and history is written by the victor, hate him or love him.

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    Why hate? They didn't do anything to you.
    Well, they actually did...modern society in most parts of the world would be far, far different had the Romans not conquered to the extent they did. Arguably for the worse. I think many people here are "joking" when they say they hate the Romans, simply because they wish other factions were more popular (and other reasons I don't understand).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWFanatic
    Well, they actually did...modern society in most parts of the world would be far, far different had the Romans not conquered to the extent they did. Arguably for the worse.
    How do you define "for the worse" when there is no possible way of thinking the alternatives or indeed of defining "good" in history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius Nero
    How do you define "for the worse" when there is no possible way of thinking the alternatives or indeed of defining "good" in history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius Nero
    How do you define "for the worse" when there is no possible way of thinking the alternatives or indeed of defining "good" in history?
    For the worse, as far as I can tell means "less like my own society."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gertrude
    I've heard some people saying that is that right uh ?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
    Hannibal was a great commander, but as was said on him, " He knew how to win a battle, but not how to win a war". To finish off the romans he needed to besiege and capture Rome, and that would have been a long struggle, knowing that the romans had a policy of no peace terms without total victory. Even if the Poeni would have send more aid to Hannibal, Rome's former allies would still not trust him and maybe with time would ally with Rome again, to kick the foreign invader out of Italia. Rome was choosen by the almighty God to earn its place in history, and history is written by the victor, hate him or love him.

    Roma Victoria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    No.



    DO NOT post crap like that outside the backroom. You may find you offend people.

    It was not my intention to harm anyone, if someone has been offended, I am very sorry. But can you tell me what have I written that can offend people, after all this is a post about who hate Romans, and who dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
    It was not my intention to harm anyone, if someone has been offended, I am very sorry. But can you tell me what have I written that can offend people, after all this is a post about who hate Romans, and who dont.

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    Perhaps everyone here want his ancesstors as chosens!

    Whole thread is just

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge
    Perhaps everyone here want his ancesstors as chosens!
    Why Chosen paticularly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
    It was not my intention to harm anyone, if someone has been offended, I am very sorry. But can you tell me what have I written that can offend people, after all this is a post about who hate Romans, and who dont.

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    I dont think that EB team dislike Romans. I downloaded EB 1.0 a few weeks ago and playing as Roman im having lot of fun, i even can say that i ve never had so much fun in total war games as with EB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
    It was not my intention to harm anyone, if someone has been offended, I am very sorry. But can you tell me what have I written that can offend people, after all this is a post about who hate Romans, and who dont.

    Cheers.
    Well, next time you make a statement like you did use "the Almighty Jupiter" rather than "the Almighty God" since it's more likely to be taken as a bit of roleplay and less likely to irk the more sensitive of posters.

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