MTW 2 Fighting the Timurids

[phonicsmonkey]

Also, keep an eye out for any Mercenary Elephants which may be in the region, they can be a handy addition

Not sure if it's possible as England to pick up javelin cavalry mercs, but I've found them very effective against pachyderms in the past....

[Shahed]

IIRC stakes work on all cavalry, elephants & camels included, IF they double march or charge through it. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

If they march or walk through them, they don't work on any cavalry. I remember 100% about walking through them because that's what I routinely do, by walk my own cavalry through stakes placed by my own archers, when they need to get out of the line of fire.

[Ramses II CP]

Hmm, maybe the problem is that the elephants rarely charge? I've not seen elephants killed by stakes even though they've attacked me through them. That being said, it was quite some time ago and I don't recall the exact circumstances. It's quite possible that they walked through the stake line before pounding me, but then again I've never seen enemy cavalry walk through a defended stake line either.

This calls for a test! Time to see if I can dig up an old England save from the period.

[Shahed]

That will be great. I just did a test but the elephants just walked through the stakes. Walked being the keyword. I remember I tested this as well, forgot the result though, have screens:

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Only I forgot if they did or did not charge, I suspect they did'nt, probably routed before the charge/attack.
Hmm must have posted this in some other thread with the results of the test.
Anyway if you can do it, that would be great.

Look at hom many they killed before running out of ammo, don't everyone huddle together !!!

[imnothere]

tested only once. with english v timurid.

timurid elephants walks through the stakes, and all my stakes forest dissappear. dont even ask whats going on. maybe CA intended to create elephants as a stake-sweeper against stake-happy players???

perhaps it will work only if elephants charges. with mounted units, they'd still take casualties - but only not as bad as running into stakes. because i remember that those timurid elephants charges from the bridge. but then again there was 6 units of spears that they tried to flatten and failed.

that being said, elephants are easily routed once speared and fire-arrowed. once they turn berserked, they wont be rally anytime soon. i have never seen an elephant unit that rallied from berserked state or routed.

[phonicsmonkey]

If you're really cheeky you can herd them with fast cavalry like border horses...just dangle them around in front of the running-amok-eles and they will charge at them.

In this way you can lure them into the proximity of enemy infantry, sit back and enjoy the carnage...

Obviously this requires great skill and a suicidal cavalry captain..

200 posts, thankyou, thankyou

[Shahed]

Congrats !