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Kepper 19:38 11-13-2007
Will this Lusotannan unit have new skin
1ºIberi Velites
2ºIberi Milites
3ºIberi Caetrati
4ºIberi Equites Caetrati
5ºIberi Scutari
6ºLoricati Caetrati
7ºIberi Curisi
Because this unit´s skin are forme EB v.074, compere it the new unit of EB v0.80 and EB v1.0 my god they are ugli.

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Son of Perun 20:25 11-13-2007
I agree with Kepper. They are not even ugly but also unhistorical, as the Iberians were of north-african origin and should have much darker skin.

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Sarcasm 20:37 11-13-2007
Am I going to have anyone flogged here?

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Kepper 21:17 11-13-2007
Originally Posted by Son of Perun:
I agree with Kepper. They are not even ugly but also unhistorical, as the Iberians were of north-african origin and should have much darker skin.
In 280 BC the Iberinas have long gone they have became Celti-Iberians
map of Iberian peploe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...RRAPUNICAT.GIF

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Son of Perun 22:24 11-13-2007
Originally Posted by Kepper:
In 280 AD the Iberinas have long gone they have became Celti-Iberians
map of Iberian peploe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...RRAPUNICAT.GIF
So why are their units called Iberian and not Celt-Iberian?

Sorry for saying the Iberians were of north-african origin, it's just a theory. But I still think that in EB they look like some north-european people.

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Kepper 23:27 11-13-2007
I have found this:
Greek colonists made the first historical reference to the Iberians in the 6th century B.C. They also dubbed as Iberians another people, currently known as Caucasian Iberians. It is not known whether they had any connection or if it was just a coincidence of names. The Iberians most likely made contact with other cultures long before this, however. The Phoenicians established their first colony on the Iberian Peninsula in 1100 B.C. (Gadir, Gades, modern Cádiz) and probably made contact with Iberians then or shortly thereafter.
and this:
The origin of the Iberians is not known. There is no proof about a hypothetical origin in North Africa, today an obsolete theory.

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Spoofa 23:29 11-13-2007
Originally Posted by Kepper:
In 280 AD the Iberinas have long gone they have became Celti-Iberians
map of Iberian peploe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...RRAPUNICAT.GIF

AD? thats sorta way out of the time frame of EB

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Kepper 23:49 11-13-2007
Sorry is in BC not AD

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Lusitani 00:42 11-14-2007
Hmmmm

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KARTLOS 18:05 11-14-2007
Originally Posted by Son of Perun:
I agree with Kepper. They are not even ugly but also unhistorical, as the Iberians were of north-african origin and should have much darker skin.
i think that is pretty insulting. even if they were of north african origin it doesnt necessarily mean that their skin should be darker. for example alot of berber people have fair skin and light hair - there has been several instances of blonde berber children being mistaken for the missing british child madeleine.

at the time there had not been a significant influx of black slaves or arabs to the north african coast and as such it would be fair to asume that the people looked different. i think the fair skinned berber would have been more typical of the time.

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runes 18:48 11-14-2007
the luso army is pretty much the best in the game, for me anyway.

out of the experimenting i've done, their cheaper units beat more expensive units virtually every time.

i shredded gestaesae, pedites, phalanxes and had a few units of cataphract charge head on into light spear and they were halved in no time.

added to this the access to the falxmen and you one hell of an army.

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mAIOR 20:06 11-14-2007
What I know about the Lusotannan is that their origins cannot be placed. They had in general, fair skin and brown~dark hair.
I think their units are well represented in EB as all Iberian units in general. If you want further proof, the "darker" natives in nowadays Portugal have Arabic ancestors not Africans.


Cheers...

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WCrusader 20:33 11-14-2007
I ppl :) im glad i found this topic :)

Just to introduce what im about to write :)
I am Portuguese and i have in from of me one of the most complete history books of Portugal.... smells of old :)

In this book we have the information that the first writen texts about the iberian coast were written in 520BC by a massalian explorer.
They say there were phoenicians and cartaginans on the southern shores
Gadir was founded by phoenicians in XII BC
There were already indeginous populations when they arrived of unknown origins.

Hehe nice find :) we had leather ships by that time... and we sailed to Britain in them :)))))
Crazy bastards...

After this time period, final bronze age, we started having migrations from central-european tribes.
And our cultures merged, they were called the first indo-european migrations.
And then we got some more phoenician colonies on the southern shores.
With the phoenician colonies trade became abundant because we had bronze mines...

Well i think this is enough to tell the first steps of our civilization.
The book is named :
History of Portugal : Volume I - Before Portugal
written in Portuguese of course :) dont know if there are any translations to english.

Sarcasm i guess you are right about the info you got :)
If you need any more help on this subject i can read more and translate it.

Cya
WCrusader

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