Pontic bodyguards overpowered?

**Zarax** · 11-12-2007, 19:55

This is not a flame post or a provocation in any way.
After playing a pontic campaign in 1.0 I feel that their BG became from severely undepowered to overpowered at least in some respect.
I could basically conquer the first two cities with two bodyguard units and then sending a militia to keep the city from revolting.
After that I could still demolish half stacks of enemy units (M/M) with the same two bodyguards...

I know that the kinsment are supposed to be a quite good heavy cavalry but aren't they a bit over the top right now?

**abou** · 11-12-2007, 20:04

Their charge value is a bit too high... that or other cavalry is too low. We have a couple of things planned for cavalry for the next release.

**Treverer** · 11-12-2007, 21:00

@ Zarax: if you haven't already, try a 1.0 Pontic campaign on H/M. T'is a bit harder in the run, believe me. EDIT: ... and you're happy to have them.

T.

**Watchman** · 11-13-2007, 19:35

Whatever their charge value might be, the current main issue with the Eastern Early Bodyguards is that their armour is for some reason 23 - which is what those Hai late bodyguard catas get...

Small wonder they're kinda excessively hardcore.

Given that the normal Eastern Heavy Cav has armour like 16, and the only equipement-related difference between those guys and the BGs is that the latter ride a fully barded horse instead of a half-bard one, the correct value ought to be something like 17 instead.

Mind you, properly used they're still just as crazy lethal as any other BG cav. I've on occasion demolished decent-sized Eleutheroi stacks with just one FM.

**Zarax** · 11-13-2007, 19:51

What's scary about them is that I can take on spearmen with ease and melee with gaesatae (of course not without heavy losses) and still not loose my generals...
That said, they will be extremely handy now that AS decided that I was an easy target...
They already lost their first 2/3 stack against me and now they will have to face my main army that is gonna be redirected from sieging Pergamom to Ipsos and Sardis.