For Those That Play As Romans

[Treverer]

That's an underestimation, I'd guess ...
better:

basically everything to the North of the Alps towards the Baltic is very unsafe

... and I who thought this was common knowledge among us players.

[Tellos Athenaios]

That's an underestimation, I'd guess ...
better:



... and I who thought this was common knowledge among us players.

If you want to know what hurts: ask the AI... I believe Diazelmis & Sautes are about to bury yet another two core legions of the Romani under the piles of skulls of previous Roman legions...

[Pharnakes]

For Those That Play As Romans

People play as Romans?!




Well, its their life I suppose.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Well I figure not all people simply stick with smashing Romans...

[Treverer]

The day I go to Pannonia with Epiros, I'll gather all my veterans, recruit a lot more slingers (& whatever else might be needed, but I'm now forgetting to mention) and then I will enter. Two, better three (= four for savety) full stacks of armies, crossing the border (just a bit) and then waiting for the attack. Either I win (even if a Phyrric, lol) or I'll wait and see what the future brings ...

Yours,
Treverer

[Wolfman]

I must agree with Pharnakes. Romans Bah. Carthage & Makedon forever!!!

[Tellos Athenaios]

Meh those Mak generals are too drunk to reach their cities in time... So the Epeirotai kinda took out two of 5 Mak settlements that way. And it's waiting till Epeiros eradicates them from the mainland altgother by conquering Thermon. Then it's waiting for the KH to finish Chalkis off.


I mean. C'mon you got your elite barrack up and running, you keep pumping out Hypaspistai, Argyraspides, Pheraspides and Agrianikoi... And then you let the Illyrioi Paraktioi walk into your city, basically?!

[Wolfman]

What a choice. do I choose the drunken Macedonians who eventually died honourably to roman swords? Or do I choose the manic depressive, bipolar, low self esteemed, king of epirus who was killed by an old women with a roofing tile ? oh what a choice

[Treverer]

... or I'll wait and see what the future brings ...

A note of clarification:

those Eleutheroi armies stacks appear via script at a certain moment and I'd guess they disappear too at a certain moment (or are replaced by a beatable stack) at some point of the game.

T.

[Thaatu]

those Eleutheroi armies stacks appear via script at a certain moment and I'd guess they disappear too at a certain moment (or are replaced by a beatable stack) at some point of the game.

I hate to break it to you...

[MoROmeTe]

..but they never go away. They also seem to trigger a floury of troop building in those provinces. I, as the Sweboz, have been trying to expand east, along the Baltic. man, I got my arse handed down to me by the defenders of those damn backwaters... They are now siegeing Ascaulis and there's no way I am going to try and clear the siege. I just pray they are not gonna move towards my damn capital, which is kinda close.

[Dayve]

I got done good by one of those crazy gold chevroned rebel armies in my Sweboz game a while back... I decided instead of going south and west i would make the entire modern-day Russia a client kingdom of type 4 governments. I took my army which was now very experienced, almost a full stack, and tried to take a province which would be in Poland today i guess. On the way there my legendary hero Herkawulfaz (i think was his name) with 6 stars of command reached the age of 55 and began getting tired and nasty traits after only one turn marching, so i decided i would replace him with the husband of his daughter, a 1-star noob that had never seen action outside of the bedroom. I figured it would be a good time to prove himself to the faction leader that he was worthy of marrying his daughter.

Anyhow, i marched right into an ambush of a huge army of gold and silver and 3 bronze chevrons, every unit was hard as nails, and they had 20 of them. Anyhow, i tried to have my general fight to the death out of shame of losing my faction heir's beloved army which he conquered so much land with, but the coward ran away when all but 3 of his bodyguards had been killed. 90% of the whole army was destroyed and i'm sure Herkawulfaz will be finding his daughter a new husband sometime soon, or at the very least giving his son-in-law the right honourable duty of being second in command governing a crappy province in the north with a population of less than 1000.

[Watchman]

those Eleutheroi armies stacks appear via script at a certain moment and I'd guess they disappear too at a certain moment (or are replaced by a beatable stack) at some point of the game.

IIRC that's functionally impossible given the limitations of the script... So you gotta get rid of them the old-fashioned way.

You'll be fighting for your country
See the colors fly
They'll be coming in the morning boys
You gotta hold the line
- The Thin Red Line by Saxon

[Treverer]

Oh, well ...

... I'll just double (for safety: triple) my forces and hope for a "Phyrric Win".

... or, I leave them alone and conquer the rest of the world ;-).

T.

[konny]

You'll be fighting for your country
See the colors fly
They'll be coming in the morning boys
You gotta hold the line[/I]
- The Thin Red Line by Saxon

And as I lay there gazing at the sky
My bodys numb and my throat is dry
And as I lay forgotten and alone
Without a tear I draw my parting groan

Iron Maiden, The Trooper

[bovi]

People play as Romans?! Well, its their life I suppose.

I think your line of posts like this is no longer any fun. You've made a lot of them.

[Boyar Son]

I think your line of posts like this is no longer any fun. You've made a lot of them.

You're right my apologies. Backroom makes one a hell of a debater.

But as for lines of sources...you HAVE heard of scipio africanus and trajan?

One defeated hannibal and the other the parthians. Bovi how'd you know I made comment that warrant warnings?

[Watchman]

Around the time Scipio beat Hannibal Carthage had for most intents and purposes lost the Second Punic War already, so that point is a little moot. As for the Parthians, meh. The two had a sort of permanent if often bloody stalemate in Syria and Mesopotamia, neither able to make decisive and permanent inroads into the other's territory.

...and for a while the Palmyrans slapped both around, although granted the Romans were sort of preoccupied at the time.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Well the one you just made certainly warrants two:
1) I must warn you, that Bovi didn't make a remark towards you - he quotes Pharnakes for starters.
2) I must warn you that Trajan is toast very, very quickly in a serious debate on military achievements.

Indeed Trajan is mostly known for:
a) Breaking alliances (with the Getai)
b) Proclaiming the glory of mass-rape & mass-murder (his column). We all 'know' what his German campaign was like; not to mention his campaign against the Getai...

He never won any important military victory. He did extract an awful lot of gold from the Getai though...

[Reno Melitensis]

[QUOTE=Tellos Athenaios]Indeed Trajan is mostly known for:
a) Breaking alliances (with the Getai)
b) Proclaiming the glory of mass-rape & mass-murder (his column). We all 'know' what his German campaign was like; not to mention his campaign against the Getai...

It was the Getai who broke the peace with Rome, during the principate of Domintian, who's armies where defeated. As a result he agreed terms that where not accepted by Rome's senate. He was murdered and replaced by Nerva. But by the time Trajan became emperor the Getai where already on the war path. The Dacian wars where on the horizon.

Cheers.

[Pharnakes]

You're right my apologies. Backroom makes one a hell of a debater.

But as for lines of sources...you HAVE heard of scipio africanus and trajan?

One defeated hannibal and the other the parthians. Bovi how'd you know I made comment that warrant warnings?

Uum... Why are you apologiesing for me?

Not that I am objecting, just curious.

[Boyar Son]

i said sry to the orgah i said "oh realllllyyy....."

@Watchman- but the parthians were defeated right? armenia was now Roman right? they WENT AS FAR as SUSA!!

Trajan not a good general...

Also- Hannibal was used to fighting outnumbered battles right? he won them right? w/out the numidians on Roman side instead of Carthge's Hannibal could've won right?

It's funny how u make me first say how hannibal was defeated then say he could've won.