client ruler gets interloper trait??? WTF? some weirdness with Pahlava Gov't4

[MerlinusCDXX]

this is not a gamebreaking problem, but it is rather annoying.
First of all, here is the savegame

http://uploaded.to/?id=fpa3kmand some screenies to better explain my problem







year is 174 BC in my Pahlava campaign, I build the Vassal Kingdom in Tarsos this being the only gov't that has any benefits for Pahlava in this area. When the gov't is completed, the script yanks my FM out of Edessa, changes his bodyguard to a Hellenic Merc General, and does not give him the client ruler trait, I leave him to govern anyway, thinking the engine forgot to write in some text, no big deal. He stays in town doing his thing for a turn or 2, and gets the interloper trait?, so I send him off to the army (I have the client ruler sally fix installed, though with no client ruler trait I think he has the movement of a normal merc general) try destroying and rebuilding again, and presto, this guy is magically teleported back right outside of Tarsos again. I fixed the problem by getting thid guy killed beseiging a settlement by himself. when I rebuilt the Vassal State again it worked this time.

this isn't a huge deal, but all these shenanigans had the result of Edessa rebelling because my FM governor is gone, replaced with a greek doppelganger that lost all his good traits, again, not a gamebreaker, but highly annoying.

also had another merc general spawn w/o client ruler trait in Bostra a few turns later, but figured it is the same thing as this instance, betting it is something to do with trait triggers.

[Malik of Sindh]

I had a very similar problem in my Bactria campaing.The starting generals get interloper traits when they are in Alexandreia-Eschate or Marakanda.

[bovi]

I think this could be because there are too many people with the name of the client ruler. The script should kill up to two people with that name before creating the new one. Perhaps a bug concerning that killing then, as it teleports the guy instead. Do you happen to still have a savegame where it happens?

The Baktrian guys getting interloper is fixed in the internal version. In fact, Baktria no longer has those territories initially, but may gain them from Seleukid rebellions fairly quickly.

[MerlinusCDXX]

I think this could be because there are too many people with the name of the client ruler. The script should kill up to two people with that name before creating the new one. Perhaps a bug concerning that killing then, as it teleports the guy instead. Do you happen to still have a savegame where it happens?

The Baktrian guys getting interloper is fixed in the internal version. In fact, Baktria no longer has those territories initially, but may gain them from Seleukid rebellions fairly quickly.

that's the only version of the savegame I still have, I generally save over the old turn so as not to clutter up my save screen. If it happens again I will make sure to upload the save on that turn. the whole "too many people with that name" thing seems like it would adversely effect the Pahlava because of the nature of their governmental structure (no level 3 gov't, either the Reform Pahlava type 1/2, basic nomad/pastoral(ism), or Vassal kingdom). I don't see much benefit to pastoralism in civilized lands...seems kind of ahistorical to revive such a cosmopolitan empire such as the Persian by reducing a civilized land to "mud-hut dirt grubbing".

EDIT: forgot to add
When the guy got pulled from Edessa (the first "teleport"), i think the script killed him as a FM so it could give the client governor his name.

[MerlinusCDXX]

Is there any way to give the "client ruler trait via console command? I'm asking because anywhere Type 4's are being built, the ruler spawns without the client ruler trait. Could it also be some kind of FM limit (min or max)...I'm probably really low on FM's right now due to my adoption/marriage candidates all being completely useless...I just won't take 'em.

[bovi]

Oh yes, sorry for not thinking of that. It's give_trait "<charactername>" Type4Governor, where you can find the charactername in the script, where he's spawned. Search the client ruler section for the settlement name in question and the name will be close.

[MerlinusCDXX]

one more little thing and I think I've got it.

Is the stratmap character name the same as the internal ch_name?

[bovi]

This is the code for romans in Tarsos, starting on line 63558. You'll have to find the faction and settlement in question yourself.

monitor_event GovernorBuildingCompleted SettlementBuildingFinished = gov4
and SettlementName Tarsos
and FactionType seleucid
and FactionIsLocal
and GovernorInResidence
and Trait Type4Governor < 1
and Trait ClientRuler < 1

console_command kill_character "DecimvsD"
console_command kill_character "DecimvsD"

spawn_army
faction seleucid
character DecimvsD, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, , x 192, y 111
unit hellenistic general lonchophoroi, soldiers 20 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
end

move DecimvsD, 191, 111

console_command give_trait "DecimvsD" Type4Governor

end_monitor

[MerlinusCDXX]

ok I've got it. thanks for all your help. You've managed to explain it so that even a computer impaired old fart like me could get it ;)

[bovi]

No problem, your questions are polite, precise and easily understood, and when I can see progress it's enjoyable to help .