Does anyone else give the AI money?

[beatoangelico]

I know it, everyone knows it; AI diplomacy is suicidally bad.

"Here's some money to help raise troops against our mutual enemy, the one besieging one of your towns right now. Take it as a gift of the friendship between our nations)"

"We have nothing to give you in return, so we must refuse."

"But, I said it was a gift."

"It is pointless talking to you now."

I use money to try to maintain the flagging sides of conflicts on my borders. Better two moderately weak nations fighting one another than one great power fighting me.

AI doesn't like large sums of money as "occasional tribute" as far I could see, but is more likely to accept regular tributes

[Sarkiss]

i do it only if i need to create a buffer zone or play a broker in some regions when dominance of one faction (or emerging super powers) isnt in my interest. some times just to keep a faction alive for the sake of above mentioned balance.
i gave money to Galls to stop Sweboz form getting too close to my borders once. ended up in war with Gaulls

[bovi]

The AI will always accept gifts, if you actually give it as a gift. There's a special button for it. The normal one will make the AI consider what it would like to give in return for your money, and will see that it doesn't actually have anything it wants to trade off.

[Intranetusa]

The AI will always accept gifts, if you actually give it as a gift. There's a special button for it. The normal one will make the AI consider what it would like to give in return for your money, and will see that it doesn't actually have anything it wants to trade off.

Not always. I just tried giving the Averani (neutral) 10k to fight the Aedeui as a "gift" and they flatly refused my gift. >.<

[Shadowwalker]

@bovi:
No, it doesn't. Offered different gifts to different factions and whenever the offering diplomat had not at least 4 dots of influence, the gift was refused.
Hard to understand...

edit:
To answer the thread's question - I sometimes give money to the AI (hoping the faction that gets the money will use it to fight another faction) but because of the AI stupidity I use it not so much...
And in most cases I haven't got enough money. Even in my current Romani campaign (where I own whole Europe from Gibraltar to Byzantion, including British Isles and Scandinavia) I'm not able to save some money. 60,000 mnai per turn - and I need it all to pay for new buildings.

[larsbecks]

Sometimes I'll do "give money" and "tribute" to increase the chances of acceptance. Although weird things have occurred like the AI only asking for a portion of my offerings while trying to give me a few hundred denari.

[Centurion Crastinus]

How do you guys even have that much money to give away. I have only one full stack of soldiers ( I know the upkeep is huge) and I can barely make ends meet.

[Callicles]

I use the add_money 20000 command to get the funds for gifting to other factions.

Hit the tilde key to bring up the console, then type "add_money XXXX" where XXXX is the amount, but you can't give more than 20,000 at a time. Then, with a diplomat, gift the 20,000 to the faction.

But if you are using the Force Diplomacy mod, don't think you can just force factions to give you settlements and then gift the settlement to someone else. It seriously messes with their economy and recruitment because the scripts don't account for such action.

But I think the real question of this thread should be whether it has an impact. My own experience against the Baktrians (gifting hundreds of thousands to the Parthians) is that the extra money doesn't work because they don't invest in their economy, while the Baktrian economy and population is phenomenal.