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    Uneasy with Command Member Treverer's Avatar
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    Default Re: About racism, discrimination and intolerance of intolerance.

    ... if Eve hadn't eaten from the apple ...

    Well, this sentence explains it all:

    - a seductor, tempting Eve to
    - break the rule and
    - eat from forbidden fruit.

    Meaning, IMHO there is always someone who prevents humanity to live in a kinda "Utopia". Take a look at the Communist Experiment in Russia et. al.

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    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    I was born in a comunist country so I know some stuff on the subject, but this is not about political doctrines. It's about racism and discrimination. I started this discution because it pissed me off that some people hate others but what pissed me off the most is the fact that I am pissed off. I am pissed off because I am intolerant to intolerance and this does not make me better. Maybe I am better than a racist lad who has fun beating up people of different nature just because they're different but still I am not at peace with myself. The more abuses I see out there the more angry I get and it seems that slowly this anger transform into hate. And I see myself becoming the monster in order to defeat the monster. And this is just wrong.

    About the tread itself I don't understand why people are so afraid of discussing this subject. "Maybe you should take care with this sbject", "do you really want to bring this into discution?". Yes I do. This is reality, it happends here in EU and both in US (and allover the world). They're our friends that make racist remarks and we laugh but we don't realise that through this attitude we don't help anyone. So yes, I would like to discuss this subject because being silent doesn't make anything better over night. Some people would say "I am no racist, I don't have anything against black people or jews or no matter who". I am not saying we're all racist, don't get me wrong, all I'm saying is that our silent attitude only makes thing worse and we don't realise it. We lack insight and tend to forget very soon. One of History's main purposes is to remind us of our mistakes and to help us prevent them. And trust me, when I see all this hate around me, it really gets me thinking. Is really the human race that primitive? Have we not learned anything all this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burakuku
    Is really the human race that primitive?
    AFAIK, yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Burakuku
    Have we not learned anything all this time?
    IMO, no.
    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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