Pontikoi Thorakitai

[Zarax]

Is it right for them to have lesser stats than thureophoroi?
In my game they are respectively 13/21 (atk/def) vs 15/22 with 1 experience point.

[Watchman]

No greaves (but scale cuirass - or was it mail ? - instead of linothorax) and short sword instead of a spear (which has around 4 points extra attack to make up for the anti-infantry penalty from the light_spear weapon attribute).

Sounds about right to me.

[Zarax]

Well, greaves count for 1 or 2 points of armour but shouldn't mail/scale give 1 or 2 extra points over linen?

Other than that, what's the point in recruiting them when thureophoroi are at least as good but quite cheaper?

[Basileus Seleukeia]

Well, I'm under the impression that the EB team designs the units in a way that they are realistically portrayed in the game. If the unit was reported to be particularly bad, it is portrayed like that in EB. I myself, don't see a reason why I should recruit them, they have a smaller AOR than Thureophoroi and are even slightly weaker (at least that's what I have seen in my campaign), so the simple solution is that I don't recruit them.

[beatoangelico]

the problem is, historically they were widely used in late pontic armies, while in EB at the moment are almost useless

[Zarax]

I think they are underarmoured given their appearance, for the rest they look fine to me...