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    Default Re: Mine in Pella

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepper
    But they many starting forces and 1ª level of mines in Pella will give you a bust of 1800 mm is almost noting compare it a cost of having Elephant it Epirote and the big army just next to Athene's.
    Sorry about my bad English.
    First: no need to apologize! English isn't my mother-tongue too.

    Second: I cannot tell you anything about Makedonia, as I played them only once back in 0.81v2.

    But for Epiros: Yes and no.
    - Yes, it would be nice to have these mnai.
    - And no, as IMHO the Elefantes are only needed in turn one to conquer both Makedonia and Thessalia. Afterwards, their cost/use is near zero, as 1. they are practically useless against stonewalls and 2. the conquests of Dalmatia & Dardanoia need more troops than you have at turn one. The upkeep of the Elefantes will ruin you (and the one of your fleet too, btw) if you wait for a bigger army. "Elefantes are more than just 'wall-breakers'!" Right, they frighten enemy troops, which is IMO their BEST ability/strength. But is it worth the money at that point of the game? IMO no, not after the conquest of both northern Makedonian territories.

    As I stated in other posts before, the starting position of Epiros is rather strong, if a Human is playing them! And the possibilities to expand and consolidate are given, the chance that Makedonia & KH are concentrating on each other are given too, and the budget of Epiros is quickly balanced and is making a good profit after one or two years.

    To resume: IMHO, there is no need to give Pella a mine1 at the start. EDIT: at least from an "Epirote point of view".

    Yours,
    Treverer
    Last edited by Treverer; 11-21-2007 at 01:58.
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