Mine in Pella

[Maksimus]

I think that even Pyrros took some of that gold.. but the point is I think that he run down to Sparta so he could not exploit that more - Gonatas did... and he did use that mined gold even when he needed it while at Athens and to renew Pella to some point - without those mines - there were be no Macedonian's .. in a way..

[Danest]

Doesn't Eb usually choose historical accuracy over "game balance"? if a faction was weak or strong, or held the mightiest mines on earth historically, then so be it!

[Bava]

Doesn't Eb usually choose historical accuracy over "game balance"? if a faction was weak or strong, or held the mightiest mines on earth historically, then so be it!

Well, partially true, but there are some aspects of the game where balance > accuracy. With the mining centers in Pella up and running, Maks would steamroll everyone and their mother and we´d need a calculator to count all the "OMFG!!!! Maksendiona IS overPowered!!111!" threads.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Even more so: suppose we gave every faction precisely the means they historically got? That means:
1) Most factions get their most elite units right from the start;
2) Lots of factions would need fully developped civic infrastructure;
3) There's no point in playing the game anymore - the entire game aspect is lost.

So as far as units go, or buildings go we can be as picky as we want... And we are...

But as far as the 'campaign' aspect goes there's hardly anything we can do without seriously ruining the fun. Even provincial backwaters could end up big bloating & massive + very well developped from the start.

[Thaatu]

I don't know how many players out there play because they want to build infrastructure. I for one am all for settlements to start as they were in the period.

[Kromulan]

You'd have to seriously nerf the mines @ Pella to NOT have it ruin your game. You'd miss the frantic "Can I take ____ before I run myself too far in debt to _____", "Just N more turns of building nothing to get enough cash to build the mine. . . hope they don't attack before then"

[Danest]

I wonder how many EB players are playing the mod because they like to build an infrastructure? I DO like the ability to improve a town, though, but I'd think there had to be some of that going on historically. But I suppose without the city management, all we'd have is a series of battles that could have probably just been imagined in custom battles.

[konny]

I wonder how many EB players are playing the mod because they like to build an infrastructure? I DO like the ability to improve a town, though, but I'd think there had to be some of that going on historically.

Me too. I love this aspect of the game.

On the other hand I would like to have more "reasonable" starting armies especially for the factions that are at war. In this sense, the Romans are seriously overpowered because they can raise about everything they have in this periode right from the start, while for example KH has to build, and build, and build before they can even show her enemies a simple outdated Iphikratian Phalanx or a good old Hoplite.

[Maksimus]

Even more so: suppose we gave every faction precisely the means they historically got? That means:
1) Most factions get their most elite units right from the start;
2) Lots of factions would need fully developped civic infrastructure;
3) There's no point in playing the game anymore - the entire game aspect is lost.

So as far as units go, or buildings go we can be as picky as we want... And we are...

But as far as the 'campaign' aspect goes there's hardly anything we can do without seriously ruining the fun. Even provincial backwaters could end up big bloating & massive + very well developped from the start.

YOU SHOULD DO THAT
(because if you don't - i will go back to encyclopedias and edit my descr_start.txt myself as I have done it 1000 times before.. offcourse I will post it for everyone)

Even if that means to make 2 descr_start.txt for one's that like faction precisely represented and one's who like fun - and if you EB members are to make a simple thred for fans to vote - .. well.. let me bet that 80% would vote for what Thaatu is saying...

think about it please

[Spendios]

think bout it please

No

[Maksimus]

No

You cruel people

[johhny-turbo]

Eh, if you feel that there should be mines in Pella then just process_cq them in

[Treverer]

Eh, if you feel that there should be mines in Pella then just process_cq them in

Haha! Right you are!

(what a simple & brilliant sollution ... <sight>)

T.