Mine in Pella

[Danest]

All right, I see... Maks were certainly not historically in a super-rich situation. It's as if the mines were there before the time period, but someone sacked them. :)

[Maksimus]

It is a joke... you know.. I have no intention to do bad
I like Spendios, and all EB members!

[Hax]

You don't like me, do you?

Well, the answer I guess is pretty obvious: gameplay reasons =P

I'm Epeiros obsessed, and I don't want the Makedonian warmachine to get fueled even crazier. I remember spending one campaign winning Heroic victories on the Ambrakia/Demetrios border.

Good times man, good times...

[Maksimus]

You don't like me, do you?

Well, the answer I guess is pretty obvious: gameplay reasons =P

I'm Epeiros obsessed, and I don't want the Makedonian warmachine to get fueled even crazier. I remember spending one campaign winning Heroic victories on the Ambrakia/Demetrios border.

Good times man, good times...

Oh.. I like you even more! I play my Epeiros campaign a long time now...
But I can not pass the 4 times in arow CTD after one battle against Dacia..

[ross1025]

what exactly is the historical truth? was there mining works at 272BC or did most of them already be sacked?

i dont care the "game balance" thing,i just want to play a most historical-realistic game(that's why i love EB so much),so whatever positions the factions were,just let them be. overpowered or underpowered, nothing could be complained about, because that's what they acutally were at 272BC.this is a historical-simulation game,not balancing-game such as starcraft(although i love SC too).

i wanna change my stat.txt, but i'm not majored in history and not very familiar with modding, could anyone here help me do that? as i saw many guys above have the intention to do a more-historical stat.txt,including the acutal finacial positions and well-developed infrustructure and the elite troops. would you share it please? thanks in advance!

finally,as a new commer here,i'm not intent to offense anyone,and i'm not english-speaker,so please don't get any misunderstanding from my poor english(if they have any confusing statement).anyway,i love EB a lot,thanks all EB members for your great work!

[Maksimus]

what exactly is the historical truth? was there mining works at 272BC or did most of them already be sacked?

i dont care the "game balance" thing,i just want to play a most historical-realistic game(that's why i love EB so much),so whatever positions the factions were,just let them be. overpowered or underpowered, nothing could be complained about, because that's what they acutally were at 272BC.this is a historical-simulation game,not balancing-game such as starcraft(although i love SC too).

i wanna change my stat.txt, but i'm not majored in history and not very familiar with modding, could anyone here help me do that? as i saw many guys above have the intention to do a more-historical stat.txt,including the acutal finacial positions and well-developed infrustructure and the elite troops. would you share it please? thanks in advance!

finally,as a new commer here,i'm not intent to offense anyone,and i'm not english-speaker,so please don't get any misunderstanding from my poor english(if they have any confusing statement).anyway,i love EB a lot,thanks all EB members for your great work!

You should just read this EB members post

Even more so: suppose we gave every faction precisely the means they historically got? That means:
1) Most factions get their most elite units right from the start;
2) Lots of factions would need fully developped civic infrastructure;
3) There's no point in playing the game anymore - the entire game aspect is lost.

So as far as units go, or buildings go we can be as picky as we want... And we are...

But as far as the 'campaign' aspect goes there's hardly anything we can do without seriously ruining the fun. Even provincial backwaters could end up big bloating & massive + very well developped from the start!

[Thaatu]

You probably mean this post:

There should be NO mine in Pella at the start. No, definately there will not be mine until I have control over it.

Makedonian position is already too strong now. They were on the edge of colapse, If Pyrrhus was more patient he will advance against remains of Antigonid power in Macedonia instead rushing to Sparta and finis them in year or two

Before Pyrrhus death Antigonids controled only SE and E part of Province of Macedonia most probably. Moreover the whole country was in ruins after civil wars and especially Galatian invasion that happened just 6 years before start date. Antigonos was not able to gather macedonian levy guys. He was fighting with forces composed of mercenaries and as many macedonians as he can find (they were just ired of constant wars. They wanted at that point sit calmy in home and try to get something from demolished fields.

as mak king you have to rebuild the Macedonia first. at that point in was greatly depopulated (alexander took some 30000 men, diadochi wars and civil wars took even more. and then the celts came...)

Majority of mines were closed, some are mentiond to be opened by Philip V - 80-90 years deep in game timeframe. the few still working are giving you profit from the trade. And this must be enough before great investments can be put into opening more mines.

[Maksimus]

No... I realy meant the Thellos post.. I think he had a more 'forthcoming' idea about EB game vision and development.. that would suit me more however ... and I would realy like to see proff about those closed mines.. -- you don't acctually have a diary of some Greek miner or ruler that 'someone scked and closed all mines' until somene reopend them in 100 year time and even if they were closed - THE MINES IN PELA EXISTED at that time .. and to reopen them does not mean to build a new mine - that means to put miner back to work again -or even illyrian or thracian miners- that worked in Macedonian and Greek mines a long time before Alexander.. and as far as general history note -- mines were never closed - the gold mines in special even with some 10 out of 1000 miners...