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    Default Great discovery in the palatine hill

    I know this has nothing to do with a RTW mod but apparently they have found the cavern where ancient romans believed Romulus and remo were sheltered by the she-wolf.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7104330.stm

    they have found an image of a white eagle in the center of the room. how cool is that?


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    Very nice. Look at how well preserved those mosaics are, lovely stuff.

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    Default Re: Great discovery in the palatine hill

    That discovery makes me wonder how much more may be laying under the streets of Rome.

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    Does this call for a new unique building for Roma for 1.1 ...?

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    Wow amazing find! I'm sure that whole "founding" myth is a full bag of chips and this cave has about the same chance to be R. & R.'s Daycare but hey! So is believing some guy who got the "Persian Treatment" came back to life three days later and was the son of a God.....(Sorry, I'm an old testament fan.)

    Anyway I hope they manage to save the cave from collapsing because that mosaic roof is beautiful and it would be a crime to art if they let it all come down. Also, I wonder what period those mosaics were done? Judging by the detailed iconoclastic patterns, and the "eastern" imaging, I'd take a guess at the Imperial era some time in the 4th century. However as I'm no expert and it could be from way back I'd love to see Zak or somebody else with experience to take a look.

    EDIT: Nevermind, they say it's part of Octavianus' Augustus palace so I think he had it built. ;) Serves me right for not reading it through.
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    Amazing discovery. Even more amazing that they are making new discoveries at the very heart of Rome itself, even after all these years.

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    The thing is, most of it is buried, in well, Rome, you know.
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    Default Re: Great discovery in the palatine hill

    some other images

    http://www.corriere.it/cronache/07_n...upercale.shtml

    (italian site, just click on 1 picture and the gallery pops up)

    a short video and another gallery
    http://tv.repubblica.it/home_page.ph...&cont_id=14595
    http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/gal...-e-remo/1.html
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    Default Re: Great discovery in the palatine hill

    As long as they keep working on that Metro line (I think it's line C), there will be discoveries on a daily basis. They're literally digging through ancient Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celt
    EDIT: Nevermind, they say it's part of Octavianus' Augustus palace so I think he had it built. ;) Serves me right for not reading it through.
    Nah, they just say it is close to his palace, and that he had his palace built in an area considered sacred (perhaps primarily because of this cave).
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    i wonder if this potentially could have been the location of the Casa Romuli? the Lupercalia's traditional starting point was at the Casa Romuli, if I recall correctly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    i wonder if this potentially could have been the location of the Casa Romuli? the Lupercalia's traditional starting point was at the Casa Romuli, if I recall correctly.
    Well, I checked wikipedia (for what it's worth). It says it was centered around the lupercal cave, which was rebuilt by Augustus. So that could definitely be a good candidate for what this cave could be.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
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    Yep, and I think the original Casa Romuli, which was restored every year up until around Augustus' time, may have been paved over and this 'shrine' could have been built in its place by the Princeps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    Yep, and I think the original Casa Romuli, which was restored every year up until around Augustus' time, may have been paved over and this 'shrine' could have been built in its place by the Princeps.
    Oh. That kind of sucks
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    Though hardly rare -> Saddam Hussein bulldozing the ruins of the Hanging Gardens to rebuild it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    Yep, and I think the original Casa Romuli, which was restored every year up until around Augustus' time, may have been paved over and this 'shrine' could have been built in its place by the Princeps.
    Wouldn't the destruction of such an important artifact have caused an uproar amongst the conservative Romans? Especially if it was done by Augustus, who was not exactly popular in his early years if my memory serves me correctly?

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    well the Romans werent idiots--the people knew it wasnt the 'original' casa romuli, it was simply rebuilt ever season of thatch and reeds/mud or whatnot as a place to venerate Romulus. Augustus apparently built it into an actual shrine or memorial, renovating the place it seems. Not to mention he had a scary army and other henchmen..


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    Another seed of truth?
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    I hope they manage to preserve it, what a great find!


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    I'd kill many people to be a part of the team who gets to dig that up.

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    I would too man... I'd love to see all this stuff. Seeing all the ancient buildings and whatnot in Rome is #2 on my list of things to do before i die.

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    dont be an imbecile..to say you'd kill..let alone "many people" to be able to dig is idiotic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    dont be an imbecile..to say you'd kill..let alone "many people" to be able to dig is idiotic.
    It's an expression. He doesn't mean he would literally kill, he means he would do almost anything to be able to discover this kind of thing. I knew that, you knew that, so why be a dick about it?

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    the expression is "I'd kill to". Not "I'd kill many people".. come on, thats just insensitive and silly. Besides, I am a dick.


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    The expression is "I'd kill to" when you really want something. When you really really really wanna zigazig-ah, you say "I'd kill many people".

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    Then there's the "I'd nuke Tokyo to" expression. Btw, if someone really really really want's to zigazig-ah he/she needs help. It's a pain in the ass to have a 90's pop song stuck in your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    dont be an imbecile..to say you'd kill..let alone "many people" to be able to dig is idiotic.

    Did you just offer to be my first sacrifice?



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    Boy, have these forums become hostile, or is it just me...

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    TBH, yes I would say so.

    Having been absent for 4 months or so, I have come back to find that there is something missing now, which was there 4 months ago. What, I couldn't really say, but I think you are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharnakes
    TBH, yes I would say so.

    Having been absent for 4 months or so, I have come back to find that there is something missing now, which was there 4 months ago. What, I couldn't really say, but I think you are right.
    My thoughts exactly. Still, this forum is so much nicer than "Total Flame Center".
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