Where have all the Barons gone

[Rhedd]

thats some smart thinking by CA!!!!

it logical, barons alliance defeats the king, now the Barons install the new english gov't

no bug!! just suprisingly well thought out!!

Yep!

Except for, you know, the whole insane diplomacy thing.

[Sentinel]

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I honestly don't mind the Alliance becoming England when it wins, because that's what essentially happens historically, but I do mind the fact that the "new" England keeps all of the political standings of the "old".

I agree.
In my current campaign I am a war with the Barons so the change in political stance is not that important. What is irritating is that this new English faction get to keep the forts and armies of the old English faction. This nearly doubles the forces that I will have to deal with.

One other interesting fact is that the new English faction has TWO kings and a faction heir. All of which were the leaders of the old English faction.
The leaders of the Barons faction are now merely generals in the new English faction.

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So, again, has anyone played an unmodded game as England and gotten the Baron's to revolt?

My first Kingdom campaign was as the English. About turn 25 most of my provinces in Ireland suddenly changed to Barons Alliance. Also, later in the campaign any province that I let riot changed to baron Alliance. If I gave that province to another faction then created unrest it would go to rebels not Barons Alliance.