SFTS Just lost something important (PLease Read)

[Fragony]

You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married. Nothing is lost Strike, quite the contrary, you completily misinterpeted what just happened. She wants things to be more serious and wants some devotion from your part, that is what she said, 'holding you back', they are masters of reverse psycholigy alright.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Necessary for your development. Hang out with some friends (male ones) and move on. Nothing that anyone can say will do much. Perfect girls have very little drama. Fuming through writing or talking with friends helped me when I was young and felt things.

[Vladimir]

If I have a son and he asks me what women want, I'll tell him that question lies on the assumption that they know what they want. Sometimes it's "good enough" FTW!

[Adrian II]

You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married. Nothing is lost Strike, quite the contrary, you completily misinterpeted what just happened. She wants things to be more serious and wants some devotion from your part, that is what she said, 'holding you back', they are masters of reverse psycholigy alright.

Jesus Fragony, you're starting to sound like Dr Phil.

And yeah, most of us are married. Given the choice between that and being chained naked to a radiator in my basement, my woman was all for it. I keep the chains around though.

[Fragony]

Jesus Fragony, you're starting to sound like Dr Phil.

And yeah, most of us are married. Given the choice between that and being chained naked to a radiator in my basement, my woman was all for it. I keep the chains around though.

You are lucky my radiator is a total b*tch, girl that came with it is ok though.

[woad&fangs]

Fragony, I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. The correct translation is I don't feel like I've been a good enough girlfriend to you, I feel that I'm holding you back, Those feelings for you just aren't there any more.

If I have learned one thing about girls, it is that they often lie to you to try and protect your feelings.

Ex:

I hate to tell you this but i don't think i'm ready for another relationship right now. It's not just you, i just think i want time to get things normal again.

I was not there so I can't read her body language or anything like that and I might be wrong but I believe she just doesn't have feelings for you anymore and because you two are friends she didn't want to hurt your feelings.

Your situation sucks SFTS but I wish you the best of luck.

[master of the puppets]

sigh *pats SFTS on the back*
it'll pass man, just get a beer, get some sleep and hang out wit yur buddies, everything will be all right.

hey and if you truly feel like crap just remember, you have friends here... and i'm sure at least a few of them know of a good mail order bride service.

[Boyar Son]

I heard beer at these times will only make you cry and do something stupid.

dont take it to hard, look ahead instead of something you cant help now. Remember, its all about YOU.

[Ice]

I heard beer at these times will only make you cry and do something stupid.

dont take it to hard, look ahead instead of something you cant help now. Remember, its all about YOU.

Heh, now that's a helpful post.

Alcohol definitely isn't the answer and you will probably do something stupid.

[Xiahou]

Fragony, I'm sorry to say that you are wrong.

If I had to guess, I'd say Frag was right. She was pissed because he didn't call. Then he argues about it and denies any wrongdoing. Then he tries to act like nothing happened and doesn't know why she's mad. All of this leads her to conclude that he doesn't take the relationship seriously.

At least, I'm guessing that's how she saw it. Of course I'm married, so I probably don't know what the hell Im talking about.

[English assassin]

If I had to guess, I'd say Frag was right. She was pissed because he didn't call. Then he argues about it and denies any wrongdoing. Then he tries to act like nothing happened and doesn't know why she's mad. All of this leads her to conclude that he doesn't take the relationship seriously.

IMHO these things just happen, there is no point trying to work out why, or what you could have done differently. You'll never know. The only thing you can do is let time pass.

Tough break STFS. At least they can't take being British Texan from you though.

[Husar]

Of course this thread had to have some stereotyping of girls (yeah, really, they're all the same, just like all men are like me ) and some blanket statements (beer can help, it depends on whether you're actually like me or not ).

That said, I would guess that Xiahou is right.

[Strike For The South]

She seems serouis about being friends. Shes gone out of her way to talk to me. I dont know if I can deal with this sorta downgrade just yet. Ive kinda blown her off. What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together. Getting drunk isnt going to be quite as fun

[GeneralHankerchief]

Get drunk together (during a party with mutual friends present or something) and see what happens. That might be the best barometer of what's really up.

[Papewaio]

Quite the opposite. If a relationship is not sustainable without having to use alcohol there isn't a point.

[Vladimir]

She seems serouis about being friends. Shes gone out of her way to talk to me. I dont know if I can deal with this sorta downgrade just yet. Ive kinda blown her off. What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together. Getting drunk isnt going to be quite as fun

The worst thing you can do is turn her into an enemy. If the relationship doesn't work out there's always "friends with benefits." Besides, you're ruining it for the rest of us. Many women don't want to go from friends to dating because of what you're doing right now.

[Fragony]

What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together.

Look at the bright side, that's convenient. You made a mistake it will be fine, unless of course it won't but it doesn't sound like that, she's just torturing you a bit if you ask me.

[Ice]

She seems serouis about being friends. Shes gone out of her way to talk to me. I dont know if I can deal with this sorta downgrade just yet. Ive kinda blown her off. What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together. Getting drunk isnt going to be quite as fun

If that's the biggest problem in your life, Strike, be happy.

Trust me, be happy.

Plenty of other women.

[Husar]

If that's the biggest problem in your life, Strike, be happy.

Trust me, be happy.

Plenty of other women.

The problem is, you want just one.

[Kralizec]

Sorry to hear that, Strike.

Get drunk together (during a party with mutual friends present or something) and see what happens. That might be the best barometer of what's really up.

On that note: never, ever even consider taking back a girl that dumped you previously. Unless you think you have the heart to dump her in turn before she can do it again. You'll just feel used.

Just give it time and let it all rest.

[Papewaio]

You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married.

ROFL

Yes, Dear. It's my fault Dear. Yes, I'll be off the computer soon...

[RoadKill]

GAhhhhhh. Who needs women when we have beer.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Best way to get a partner in today's society:
1. get remorseless and indifferent to whether you hurt their feelings. You need to experiment on ones that you don't like so much before you can skillfully enough approach one that matters. This skill is not so much about learning to be a good partner, but about overcoming logistical limitations and Babel-ish "language barriers". A lot of broken-hearted men and women is a necessary consequence of this point.

2. make sure to meet the same person many times. Love at first sight is uncommon, so you must spend enough time with someone to overcome your disliking for that person's vices. When you've suffocated your disgust, you will be able to approach the person with greater success. If you only meet people short periods before they disappear completely from your life, you will never have time to overcome your disgust, and never really gain enough incentive to risk everything for them.

3. under no circumstances admit to yourself that the person you've forced yourself into liking isn't the love of your life, a result of love at first sight, and other great things. Deny to yourself the fact that 99% of all relationships in western Europe and north America are formed by people desperate to procreate but who couldn't find anything better than what they found. Though admittedly, at times you can also admit that it would be a pretty ridiculous coincidence if most people could go around without finding any suitable life time partner for 30 years, then suddenly when they get old enough that they're borderline on losing all handsomeness/beauty, suddenly find someone in less than a few months, and that that person would be a good partner, and not a desperate choice.

4. give up all moral values on telling the truth. Practise lying in front of a mirror. The more you lie, the better. But the most important part isn't the lying itself, but your ability to remain calm when the lie is discovered. When you're capable of staying clam when your lies are revealed, you improve your self-confidence dramatically, and this self-confidence is necessary for success. This, and if you can spawn in yourself a feeling of being superior to all others.

5. try to get the other one drunk. People usually don't dare having sex or starting any relationship when sober, but if you "accidentally" end up in bed when very drunk, you will be able to initiate a relationship from there, since after all, you've already had sex so the most difficult part to initiate in a sober condition has been done (albeit in a drunk condition), so everything from then on is easier.

6. remember that Hitler, Stalin and Napoleon got girl friends, while many men with much higher morality didn't. Your true morality doesn't matter to get a girl friend in modern society, what matters is your ability to convince the girl friend that you have a strong moral position. Use of terror and propaganda to market your type of personality is apparently a successful method.

7. spread fear to the partners, and try to control them. Sometimes when you succeed in gaining such control over the partners, you lose interest in them, since they appear weaker than yourself, and it appears you can find someone better easily. By deliberate, systematic mental breakdown of the partner, you can control her/him, and this facilitates initiation of a relationship. Alcoholics and psychopath wife beaters are more successful at getting girl friends, than those who out of morality refuse to manipulate and control their partners, in today's society. It's no coincidence that intelligent and caring "computer geeks" sit without girl friends, while alcoholic psychopaths get to **** the prom queen.

8. invent rituals that the partner did not know about. Introduce new ways of having sex, not because they're pleasant, but rather the opposite, in order to make the partner feel uncertain and worthless for not knowing about them. This will reinforce your control over the partner, and your own self-confidence. Constantly undermine the certainty of the partner in this manner, make the partner think it's abnormal to not do certain odd things that you invent. But don't take it too far either. Comment on the partner's lack of knowledge and experience in doing these rituals with a mild, friendly laughther, to take a position of superiority combined with understanding.

9. prepare yourself from revenge from previous partners. Naturally the above methods won't make you popular. Then again, in modern society you have to abandon morality as well as what comes with morality: the right to not become victim of justified revenge, if you want a partner.

10. gansters, semi-criminal CEOs and corrupt politicians apparently get laid with the hottest partners of the opposite sex. Rich people on average have sex more often than poor ones. So try and gain hold of a lot of money, regardless of whether it's by crime or hard work. No, I must correct this: under no circumstances try to get it through hard work, or you will hurt your abilities as a smooth talker, you will age faster and hurt your looks, and will appear generally less attractive.

And finally, the most important point of them all: while you do these things, stop looking upon them in the way they are described in this text, and simply stop reflecting about these things.

Note: while the author of this post is sure these are the most successful strategies for partner finding in modern society, he opposes the methods, as well as the society form which favors such a behavior.

[Ronin]

Best way to get a partner in today's society:
1. get remorseless and indifferent to whether you hurt their feelings. You need to experiment on ones that you don't like so much before you can skillfully enough approach one that matters. This skill is not so much about learning to be a good partner, but about overcoming logistical limitations and Babel-ish "language barriers". A lot of broken-hearted men and women is a necessary consequence of this point.

2. make sure to meet the same person many times. Love at first sight is uncommon, so you must spend enough time with someone to overcome your disliking for that person's vices. When you've suffocated your disgust, you will be able to approach the person with greater success. If you only meet people short periods before they disappear completely from your life, you will never have time to overcome your disgust, and never really gain enough incentive to risk everything for them.

3. under no circumstances admit to yourself that the person you've forced yourself into liking isn't the love of your life, a result of love at first sight, and other great things. Deny to yourself the fact that 99% of all relationships in western Europe and north America are formed by people desperate to procreate but who couldn't find anything better than what they found. Though admittedly, at times you can also admit that it would be a pretty ridiculous coincidence if most people could go around without finding any suitable life time partner for 30 years, then suddenly when they get old enough that they're borderline on losing all handsomeness/beauty, suddenly find someone in less than a few months, and that that person would be a good partner, and not a desperate choice.

4. give up all moral values on telling the truth. Practise lying in front of a mirror. The more you lie, the better. But the most important part isn't the lying itself, but your ability to remain calm when the lie is discovered. When you're capable of staying clam when your lies are revealed, you improve your self-confidence dramatically, and this self-confidence is necessary for success. This, and if you can spawn in yourself a feeling of being superior to all others.

5. try to get the other one drunk. People usually don't dare having sex or starting any relationship when sober, but if you "accidentally" end up in bed when very drunk, you will be able to initiate a relationship from there, since after all, you've already had sex so the most difficult part to initiate in a sober condition has been done (albeit in a drunk condition), so everything from then on is easier.

6. remember that Hitler, Stalin and Napoleon got girl friends, while many men with much higher morality didn't. Your true morality doesn't matter to get a girl friend in modern society, what matters is your ability to convince the girl friend that you have a strong moral position. Use of terror and propaganda to market your type of personality is apparently a successful method.

7. spread fear to the partners, and try to control them. Sometimes when you succeed in gaining such control over the partners, you lose interest in them, since they appear weaker than yourself, and it appears you can find someone better easily. By deliberate, systematic mental breakdown of the partner, you can control her/him, and this facilitates initiation of a relationship. Alcoholics and psychopath wife beaters are more successful at getting girl friends, than those who out of morality refuse to manipulate and control their partners, in today's society. It's no coincidence that intelligent and caring "computer geeks" sit without girl friends, while alcoholic psychopaths get to **** the prom queen.

8. invent rituals that the partner did not know about. Introduce new ways of having sex, not because they're pleasant, but rather the opposite, in order to make the partner feel uncertain and worthless for not knowing about them. This will reinforce your control over the partner, and your own self-confidence. Constantly undermine the certainty of the partner in this manner, make the partner think it's abnormal to not do certain odd things that you invent. But don't take it too far either. Comment on the partner's lack of knowledge and experience in doing these rituals with a mild, friendly laughther, to take a position of superiority combined with understanding.

9. prepare yourself from revenge from previous partners. Naturally the above methods won't make you popular. Then again, in modern society you have to abandon morality as well as what comes with morality: the right to not become victim of justified revenge, if you want a partner.

10. gansters, semi-criminal CEOs and corrupt politicians apparently get laid with the hottest partners of the opposite sex. Rich people on average have sex more often than poor ones. So try and gain hold of a lot of money, regardless of whether it's by crime or hard work. No, I must correct this: under no circumstances try to get it through hard work, or you will hurt your abilities as a smooth talker, you will age faster and hurt your looks, and will appear generally less attractive.

And finally, the most important point of them all: while you do these things, stop looking upon them in the way they are described in this text, and simply stop reflecting about these things.

Note: while the author of this post is sure these are the most successful strategies for partner finding in modern society, he opposes the methods, as well as the society form which favors such a behavior.

Machiavelli's Date guide....


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[ICantSpellDawg]

Sometimes when I feel like killing an ex, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the person's house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o'-lantern with a knife in the side of its head with a note that says "You." After that, I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done.

[Vladimir]

GAhhhhhh. Who needs women when we have beer.

We have beer to get women.

[KukriKhan]

There's some evidence that women (gatherers) probably invented beer, while men (hunters) were out doing their manly-type things.

I wonder if they ever regret that?

note: One observes that every thread started by SFTS lately, either starts out about, or eventually comes around to, beer. Hmmm...

[JR-]

tough break d00d.

on the other hand, when i was dumped a few years back it resulted in the most fun 9 months i've ever had in my life.

then i met a nice girl and have been good ever since.

mind you, it helped that my best mate got dumped by his girlfriend the same day too. a wingman is essential if you are embarking on a worldwide rompathon.

it has all ended good, so i guess the moral of the story is that you will survive.

best of luck