Valve, Steam, and why I hate them.

[lars573]

One thing that may help with the headaches: Prevent Steam from starting up automatically. It's pretty easy.

On the Start menu, go to Run > msconfig > Startup > Steam

Click it off, and you're done. Might want to turn off some other botherware while you're there.

Overly complecated. Especially when steam has "start steam at windows start-up?" tick box.

[Lemur]

Steam also has an Options menu where you can turn that off.

Overly complecated. Especially when steam has "start steam at windows start-up?" tick box.

What, you guys trust the software? C'mon, doesn't it feel better to turn off the spigot at the source? Besides, once you're in msconfig, it's fun to check which services and software are so very important they just have to load into memory every time you reboot. I'm trying to create a Learning Circle here, a sacred space where children and adults can learn to love the Earth and msconfig. And maybe do watercolors.

[lars573]

What, you guys trust the software? C'mon, doesn't it feel better to turn off the spigot at the source? Besides, once you're in msconfig, it's fun to check which services and software are so very important they just have to load into memory every time you reboot. I'm trying to create a Learning Circle here, a sacred space where children and adults can learn to love the Earth and msconfig. And maybe do watercolors.

I do. And I've never had a problem with steam that could be 1000% blamed solely on steam. Not with this PC. Because my dad uses it (yes i live at home). And he only uses the PC for pron. And he's very, very iiresonsible about it. He surfs for it with IE. Which means at any given time this PC is full with half the viruses and spyware known to exist. And he won't use Opera, because the UI is different than IE.

[Husar]

What, you guys trust the software? C'mon, doesn't it feel better to turn off the spigot at the source?

I knew you'd say that.
If I want to be sure noone connects to the internet from my PC I'll pull the plug of my router, or I could get loads of antispyware and antivirus protection programs which use more resources than the spyware does.
Also since when do you trust a Microsoft system utility?