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    Hi there!

    First of all, we're sorry...we very resolved not to complain today. Well, let me be honest, we resolve that every time.

    But now, that goes way way too far.

    Circumstances: Arche Seleukeia sended an imba eight-eyed spy into a conquered Arche city and provoked a revolution. After 2 turns, which took us over 20.000 Mnai to repair the mess, the hammer smashed in our faces: Arche Seleukeia got the city through revolution.

    So far, so good. We don't complain about the case, we lost the city through revolution. We can imagine that this can be quite realistic. But the point is: These partisan units are more skilled and equipped than any other army we fought in the whole game! They have every kind of ballista and elite phalanx, all silver armoured.

    But now, seriously: Is this historical? Do the revolutioners build their ballistas in the backyards? And where would they train such skilled phalanx? On the piazza, the governor watching them exercise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rycalawre
    Hi there!

    First of all, we're sorry...we very resolved not to complain today. Well, let me be honest, we resolve that every time.

    But now, that goes way way too far.

    Circumstances: Arche Seleukeia sended an imba eight-eyed spy into a conquered Arche city and provoked a revolution. After 2 turns, which took us over 20.000 Mnai to repair the mess, the hammer smashed in our faces: Arche Seleukeia got the city through revolution.

    So far, so good. We don't complain about the case, we lost the city through revolution. We can imagine that this can be quite realistic. But the point is: These partisan units are more skilled and equipped than any other army we fought in the whole game! They have every kind of ballista and elite phalanx, all silver armoured.

    But now, seriously: Is this historical? Do the revolutioners build their ballistas in the backyards? And where would they train such skilled phalanx? On the piazza, the governor watching them exercise?
    The engine simply picks random units from whatever is available to the faction that the settlement has chosen to defect to. Nothing we can do about that. Partially it isn't too unrealistic: consider that most troops would've fought with the equipment they got from their dad (who in turn got it from his dad etc. etc.) and (pretend) that they might've decided to look into the local armory...
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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    There is something you can do about it though. Raze the enemy's MIC.

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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    There is something you can do about it though. Raze the enemy's MIC.

    Thanks! That was something we didn't know!

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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    A nice revolution in your backyard keeps population in check and gives an opportunity to keep reserve-formations well trained - so it does also have a bright side... .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    There is something you can do about it though. Raze the enemy's MIC.
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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    On a related topic, if a city rebels and there is no culture it can defect to, what determines the units that the "Eleutheroi" city can now spawn in the city?

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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    Quote Originally Posted by Ymarsakar
    On a related topic, if a city rebels and there is no culture it can defect to, what determines the units that the "Eleutheroi" city can now spawn in the city?
    The same thing as whatever faction the town is assigned to, even if that faction is dead.


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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    It is random-unit selecting.

    But if you think about it, so called, "Revolutioners" are independent forces. And if they have a facility in the settlement, they would definitely use that to revolt against the ruling forces.

    So i think ( eventhough it is random-selecting ) it seems historical and realistic.
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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    If we want to stop this from happening, we can destroy the barracks of the city before it revolts. The AI selects random units from whatever is available in that city. If there are no barracks, they can only recruit Eleutheroi, but make sure you install the quick fix because somebody on the EB team gave them too much lethality. (I blame Teleklos)

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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    They will also hire any mercenaries that happen to be available in the region at the time of the revolt. You can prevent this by hiring the mercs yourself, if you have the money to do so.

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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    So ultimately this comes down a failure to destroy the MIC, hire the local mercs and to govern the settlement properly, or to install a decent garrison.

    Additionally, a word to the wise, "we" is the wrong pronoun unless there are two of you sat infront of that computer.
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    Default Re: Parthisan Amry out of nowhere - better organisated than any other army

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    So ultimately this comes down a failure to destroy the MIC, hire the local mercs and to govern the settlement properly, or to install a decent garrison.

    Additionally, a word to the wise, "we" is the wrong pronoun unless there are two of you sat infront of that computer.
    He's an OTT roleplayer. By 'we' i believe he is referring to him and his people, the Arche Seleukia.

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