Why are there no Gaesatae Mercenaries?

[cmacq]

They were conservative, moderate, and never set foot outside of the Italian peninsula. However, for reasons unknown, the contemporary generation of Fabii were rather apolitical. As a result, another major family, the Claudii, held influence.

My point is that there was political division.

TWFanatic, sounds like you have a very good grasp of Roman history in this period.

[TWFanatic]

TWFanatic, sounds like you have a very good grasp of Roman history in this period.

Why thank you. Yes it is one of my stronger points.


AFAIK, officers also give their unit higher morale (until they die that is). They're hard to kill as well, I think they have an extra hitpoint.

[mrtwisties]

Don't Tindanotae only have one HP? IIRC that was the difference, stats-wise.

I don't know, though. I'm an eastern faction kinda guy. I've only ever faced Tindanotae once, and even then I had a Pahlav HA army, so I wasn't too focused on their stats. Just their lack of armour :)

[Pharnakes]

No, they have the full 2hp.

[TWFanatic]

I wasn't too focused on their stats. Just their lack of armour :)

Taking things out of context can make them sound quite different than their intended meaning.

[CirdanDharix]

It is said that when the Roman senate convened following Cannae, two thirds of the senatorial body was missing. They had sacrificed their lives for the Republic. Meanwhile, in Carthage, the senators were sitting on their plump arses and, led by anti-war politicians such as Hanno, trying to call Hannibal back home. This is a generalization but you see what I mean.

Also an exageration. The Romans lost eighty persons of senatorial rank at Cannae, which was alot but definately not two-thirds of the Senate. The ordo equester was harder hit and maybe you were thinking of them?
At any rate, the Carthaginian senators, when they heard of the victory at Cannae, didn't bitch (for once) about the exepenses of the war and how Hannibal should never have started it but instead (with the exception of Hanno, who saw no point in fighting Rome) were quite enthusiastic when they saw the gold rings taken from the dead equites, and voted to send him massive reinforcements. Four thousand Numidian horsemen and forty elephants, all that could be assemble don short notice, did reach him; the senate also raised a powerful force of twelve thousand foot, fifteen hundred horse and several dozen elephants which was due to be shipped to Italy in 215, but instead (and this is where the difference in manpower between Rome and Carthage really showed) they were sent to Iberia, where the situation was already critical.

However, most importantly for the Second Punic War, it must be remembered that Hannibal was a rogue general who started a war on his own authority, without having the constitutional right to do so. His supporters in Carthage prevented the senate from disavowing him; but he did provoke Rome into declaring the war, without the approval of his government for such a plan. It's hardly surprising the senators were not campaigning with him in Italy, whereas the Roman senators were fighting directly in defence of their city. In the First Punic War, the Carthaginian aristocracy led their army, like their Roman counterparts.

I'd have to disagree on this point. The consuls of Rome were often members of the Fabii family, or their allies or subordinates. They were conservative, moderate, and never set foot outside of the Italian peninsula. However, for reasons unknown, the contemporary generation of Fabii were rather apolitical. As a result, another major family, the Claudii, held influence. Luckily for the Messanians (who were appealing to Rome for help prior to the First Punic War), the Claudii were expansionists who had a great interest in Sicily and had been pushing for Rome to build a fleet for 35 years now. For this reason, the Messanians appealed to the Claudian administration.

My point is that there was political division.

Not to the same extent as in Carthage. A Fabius declared the Second Punic War, although the embassy to Carthage was their initiative ; the Fabii's dominance during the two years after the naval defeat off Drepana (247-45) did slacken the war effort in Sicily, but by then, it didn't matter--Hanno and his allies had persuaded the Carthaginian senate to give Sicily up as a lost cause. It was the Attilii and Claudii who pushed for the First Punic War, and the Aemilii and Cornelii Scipiones who pushed for the Second, but the Fabii never frankly opposed the Punic Wars the way the landowners of Carthage opposed overseas expansion. Some of this was geographic realities, but the underlying social conflicts of Carthage played a great role as well.

[bovi]

So the Tindanotae having an officer makes them a better unit?

Probably not. He does have 100% lethality though, and I think extra hitpoint(s) so can make a significant difference until he dies.

[Ymarsakar]

Even though the Celtic nobles might have had golden torcs and what not, their warriors still sought fame and fortune. After all, many warriors were under Celtic lords because of debt-vassalage, well later on anyways. In such a society, the top few percent have most of the money, but most of the manpower comes from the bottom 50%.

So loot, fortune, and fame might indeed have been a critical motivating factor for the Gauls to join Hannibal's army.

[Moosemanmoo]

Does the world really need anymore rampaging bloodcrazed nudists

[Tellos Athenaios]

Funny you should say that when you posted something about the conditions that needed to apply to any non-specific mod of the Sims game in order to make you play it...

[Hooahguy]

are the sims games even moddable? AFAIK, the TW series are the only games that are modded.

[Tellos Athenaios]

At least the Sims 2 platform is. I know for certain that there was some in-built feature to donwload & install fan-made content...

[Moosemanmoo]

Funny you should say that when you posted something about the conditions that needed to apply to any non-specific mod of the Sims game in order to make you play it...

Well they simply annoy me in EB and are often the thorn in my side, but in a game like the sims I'd gladly employ them to my hearts content