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    I stole it from a stupid Iceni Member Shieldmaiden's Avatar
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    Like you, I've seen the Greeks conquer Asia Minor few times - though not for long.

    A suprise in my last Julii campaign - an Alliance between the Greeks and Parthians led to them conquering the entire East together, bar Egypt.

    Why I don't know, but the Brutii never got a foothold in Greece, they conquered the Balkans and ground to a halt

    The Greeks and Parthians never did destroy Egypt, and turned on each other. They were the only non-Roman Factions left by then, apart from Dacia.

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    I remember playing as Scipii, massacrering hopeless gauls that the Julii hadnt managed to crush. Anyway, i got bored and removed the fog of war to see the seleucid empire gone (surprise surprise) and woud you beleive it Greece had taken asia minor, most of Eygpt and thrace. The brutii had destroyed macedon but where being swarmed by dacians and now greeks!

    Next thing you know little marius comes along and soon the entire world is roman, at this point i quit, unable to bear a civil war only to be fighting rebels for the rest of the campaign afterwards
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    The Greek phalanxes in vanilla RTW are tough to beat, especially if they have missile support. Considering how nasty the Egyptians can be, I wouldn't be surprised if they bit off more than they could chew in that campaign.
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    Well,i seen them take some cities in Asia Minor,me playing as Parthia,but i came and conquered all Middleast,so no more Greeks in east.Right now i control Corinth and Athenes in Greece,fighting with Brutii and Scipii stacks there,and preparing for siege of last stronghold of the Greek City-states,Sparta.Though,they still fights off some lesser Scipii assaults.

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    Egypt always becomes a power house but I find them comparatively weak when ecountering or playing as them, yet from my experience thougher nearby enemies such as the seleucids, carthaginians or pontos are always crushed by them. The result is that by the time Ive reached asia minor with the brutii, that im only left with facing the inbred yellow menace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosemanmoo
    Egypt always becomes a power house but I find them comparatively weak when ecountering or playing as them, yet from my experience thougher nearby enemies such as the seleucids, carthaginians or pontos are always crushed by them. The result is that by the time Ive reached asia minor with the brutii, that im only left with facing the inbred yellow menace!
    Egypt certainly does seem to start weak. The Nubian Spearmen and even Nile Spearmen seem to have serious limitations. Cavalry and the early bowmen get cut up really easily.

    After getting to larger size cities though, train up Pharaoh's Guards and Pharaoh's Bowmen. Then send them to a city with a large temple of Horus for armour upgrades. For cavalry, use the heavy cavalry which will come available with one of the upgraded stable buildings. Hope that helps you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt Centurion
    Egypt certainly does seem to start weak. The Nubian Spearmen and even Nile Spearmen seem to have serious limitations. Cavalry and the early bowmen get cut up really easily.

    After getting to larger size cities though, train up Pharaoh's Guards and Pharaoh's Bowmen. Then send them to a city with a large temple of Horus for armour upgrades. For cavalry, use the heavy cavalry which will come available with one of the upgraded stable buildings. Hope that helps you.

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    The three factors that make Egypt so strong in the campaign without being overwhelming on the battle-map are:
    1) They have a great, secure strategic position based around their three Nile cities. They face no significant threats from West, East or South, and their Seleucid neighbours to the North have got terrible problems.
    2) Lots of their troops get substantial bonuses in hot or desert climates. Given that they fight most of their battles in these climates, this gives them an inbuilt advantage which tends to swing auto-calc in their favour.
    3) Chariots are absurdly overvalued in autocalc, largely due to their bizarrely high morale. A small egyptian army led by a chariot-mounted family member will often pulverise a Seleucid full-stack in autocalc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt Centurion
    Egypt certainly does seem to start weak. The Nubian Spearmen and even Nile Spearmen seem to have serious limitations. Cavalry and the early bowmen get cut up really easily.

    After getting to larger size cities though, train up Pharaoh's Guards and Pharaoh's Bowmen. Then send them to a city with a large temple of Horus for armour upgrades. For cavalry, use the heavy cavalry which will come available with one of the upgraded stable buildings. Hope that helps you.

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    Thanks for the advice, I'll use it whenever I get my head around how much I dislike Egypt

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