Bugs and Patch Changes v1.6 (BI)

[Kraxis]

Chosen warlord ............lod3.cas file is damaged
Chosen Warlord texture .......does not have texture on arms

Could you explain a little more? I found no problem, but then again the Saxons have a normal Warlord rather than Chosen.

Chosen axemen ... .cas fille issues with weapion placement on lod1,lod2, and lod3
immortals bodyguard........no texture on mace

Found nothing on them...

Keel spearmen .... sheild has a object that appears along the bottom of the shield and it is not a bad alphf channel.
Praeventors ..........have no arms
gallowglass ...don't have a double handed animation
celtic chariot ...........has blue british flag on it

Agreed... The Paeventores have their right forearm moved back a bit. Knew about the Gallows but it never seemed important, but will post it anyway.

imperial german body ... lod3.cas issue also texture issue with both weapions sword and spear.

Already noted.

lesser generals not activated in the game

wrong general models on the sm for most factions except romans and huns

barbarians only use saxon generals for all factions when there is a frankish gerneral and celt general.

berber model on sm is missing texture for his sword

Reiks

Interesting... Could you tell us more about this? What happens and so on. Lesser generals? What are they andso on for istance.

[player1]

By the way, chaning skeleton for Gallowglasses won't fix the problem, since hilt of their swords is too small to look well with that skeleton.

[Kraxis]

By the way, chaning skeleton for Gallowglasses won't fix the problem, since hilt of their swords is too small to look well with that skeleton.

Yes, but that is not our problem (well actually it is), it is our job to point out that it doesn't fit.

[Refnulf von Holland]

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Originally Posted by Refnulf von Holland
Chosen warlord ............lod3.cas file is damaged
Chosen Warlord texture .......does not have texture on arms
Could you explain a little more? I found no problem, but then again the Saxons have a normal Warlord rather than Chosen.

Right it is the warlord model, not sure if you know how .cas models work but none the less I will explian. A .cas file will load at a certian distance there are 4 .cas files then the sprites will load as the camera is zoomed out. With the warlord if you zoom out he will dissapear when .cas 3 loads and then reappear when .cas 4 loads. When I saw this I used 3dmax to open the .cas 3 file and discover that it is damaged.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Refnulf von Holland
Chosen axemen ... .cas fille issues with weapion placement on lod1,lod2, and lod3
immortals bodyguard........no texture on mace
Found nothing on them...

Chosen axemen the axe is misplace in the .cas files if you zoom out just a litte you will notice that the axe jumps into a high grip..after looking at the .cas files lod2.cas, lod3.cas, and load4.cas the axe is mis placed

Immoral bodyguard- when the unit fights in meele the mace they fight with has no texture it is black with the texture of the bow on it. If you open up the the .dds file with photo shop you will notice there is no texture for a mace.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Refnulf von Holland
Keel spearmen .... sheild has a object that appears along the bottom of the shield and it is not a bad alphf channel.
Praeventors ..........have no arms
gallowglass ...don't have a double handed animation
celtic chariot ...........has blue british flag on it
Agreed... The Paeventores have their right forearm moved back a bit. Knew about the Gallows but it never seemed important, but will post it anyway.

Also the Keels have a .cas problem with their sheilds


Quote:
Originally Posted by Refnulf von Holland
imperial german body ... lod3.cas issue also texture issue with both weapions sword and spear.
Already noted.

Right I saw you listed the problem with the spear bt the sword texture is missplaced aswell.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Refnulf von Holland
lesser generals not activated in the game

wrong general models on the sm for most factions except romans and huns

barbarians only use saxon generals for all factions when there is a frankish gerneral and celt general.

berber model on sm is missing texture for his sword

Reiks
Interesting... Could you tell us more about this? What happens and so on. Lesser generals? What are they andso on for istance.

As far as the lesser generals go all of the moedels and textures are in the game but for some reason CA did not use them. If you noticed CA only used three differnt general models for all of the faction. Roman, Saxon, and Hun general for all the gerneral classes. What it looks like to me CA forgot to impelment the models see how the Hun general has the wrong texture, on the Campaign map goths use celtic lesser gereral as the general model which there is a skin and model but not used on the battle map. Celts use a celtic general on the campaign but a saxon general on the battle map. I was able to fix these and activate lesser generals on my own however it just looks like an oversite on CA part.

Reiks

[player1]

One of the reasons for not using them could be that most barbarian ledears use that cool looking saxon model for battle maps, so for consistency sake, same model should be used at faction map.


Anyway, I think, countary to original RTW, that developers were really low on art staff/resources when making BI.
I don't remember a single unfinished/bugged texture/model in original RTW. Exempt wrongly colored spanish general.

But in BI, there are way too much.

I wonder will future patch(es) fix some of these problems, since usually just coders are those that work on patch maintaince, not artists.

[Refnulf von Holland]

One of the reasons for not using them could be that most barbarian ledears use that cool looking saxon model for battle maps, so for consistency sake, same model should be used at faction map.


Anyway, I think, countary to original RTW, that developers were really low on art staff/resources when making BI.
I don't remember a single unfinished/bugged texture/model in original RTW. Exempt wrongly colored spanish general.

But in BI, there are way too much.

I wonder will future patch(es) fix some of these problems, since usually just coders are those that work on patch maintaince, not artists.

I agree with you player1 but the problem with sm model vs battle models there is no consistency. Consistency would be the sm_model matches the battle model like in RTW. Here is a picture on how they should look on the sm.



Reiks

[Seasoned Alcoholic]

[EDIT:]Updated screenshots relating back to 2 posts earlier, after trying out the Roxolani faction. Also discovered Roxolani Herdsmen's formation appears to be too loose

I agree with you player1 but the problem with sm model vs battle models there is no consistency. Consistency would be the sm_model matches the battle model like in RTW. Here is a picture on how they should look on the sm.



Reiks

As with the above strategy map faction general models, add the Roxolani to this incorrect list. On the strategy map they have the Roman General skin, as below:



Same skin applies on the battlefield:



Also found that Roxolani Herdsmen's formation is a bit too loose, whether this was intentional or not I'm not sure:

[Kraxis]

Right I saw you listed the problem with the spear bt the sword texture is missplaced aswell.

Actually it is mentioned as 'weapons'...

But in any case I have added your points. Hopefully in the correct manner as I'm nore certain what you meant in all cases.

SA, they are German because they are Germans in service of the Empire. I thought the description mentioned that much.
Added the two Celtic issues.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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For what it's worth, the memory leak is a rule with no exception for me. Happens in each RTW and BI session:


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