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    Anyone try to watch this Republican debate? I watched part of it, before getting bored and dropping it to play TF2.

    It looks like it was a real gem with questions from Obama supporters, Edwards supporters, union activists and Clinton campaign members. Bear in mind that the Democrats have refused a FoxNews debate because they claim bias.

    Wonder how many Republican activists got their questions into Democrat debates? I always thought the idea of a YouTube debate was stupid to begin with- this just proves it. (Link exposing questioners.)
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    They don't call it the Clinton News Network for nothing....

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    I always thought it was the commie news network.

    Which neatly ties in with the question; blatant bias or appalling incompetence?

    Bear in mind that the Democrats have refused a FoxNews debate because they claim bias.
    They're ready to talk with no preconditions to Iran, but Fox News is just too evil.

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    I think the funniest part was General Light-loafers turns up at the debate!!! Boy, what a coincidence. Not only that, he had more time to speak then most of the candidates. I'm sure CNN didn't plan that at all, riiiiight. Typical.
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    That is great. Go to drudge report.
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    Default Re: The mess that was the CNN/YouTube debate

    Really, who here that's been to the YouTube actually took either of these seriously. For Christ's sake, just look at the comments people make!
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    Default Re: The mess that was the CNN/YouTube debate

    "Mess" what an appropriate term for events/issues concerning republican presidential candidates.

    The whole party seems to be a big mess at this point anyway, might as well add some more slop to the mud. What a 180 from post Clinton, I mean the republican party had unity, was concise had an adgenda.

    Now they look desperate and frankly silly. I dont know maybe I have peetered out on conservatism over the last 6-7 years... It just seems like a complete party collapse for them, there not coherent at all.

    Im an independent looking for a live perserver here fellas, Paul's about the only one who appeals to me, mainly because he seems to be thinking outside of the box and has a libertarian slant.

    The republican party would do well to heed this guys appeal, because as it stands now the only thing that appears to be in thier favor is the devisiveness of Hillary (if she gets the nomination)
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    I thought the debate was quite revealing, which qualifies as a good debate. Romney and giuliani are scumbags, tancredo and hunter are ignored with good reason, paul is crazy, thompson is uninterested and uninteresting, and huckabee and McCain and very genuine.

    Some select quotes, gotta love republican audiences:

    Guiliani: I don't think we should give guns to felons and crazy people
    Audience: BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    General guy: I've served 42 years in the military. also I'm gay.
    Audience: BOOOOOO!

    Hunter (I think): I will never apologise for anything america does!
    Audienc: YAaaaaaaay!

    not exact quotes but you get the gist of it.

    also:

    Youtube guy: Do you believe every word of the bible is true?
    Giuliani: Well, I believe some parts of it are allegorical *like "thou shalt not covet"*
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    They keep finding more of them too- the link has updated. Found another Edwards supporter, a former Jane Harman intern, and an apparent Richardson supporter who actually got a question thru during the Democrat's YouTube debate as well.

    Really, really sloppy CNN. Were there any questioners selected for the Republican debate that didn't have links to the Democrat party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    They keep finding more of them too- the link has updated. Found another Edwards supporter, a former Jane Harman intern, and an apparent Richardson supporter who actually got a question thru during the Democrat's YouTube debate as well.

    Really, really sloppy CNN. Were there any questioners selected for the Republican debate that didn't have links to the Democrat party?
    Do you actually object to the questions? Do you think the republicans can't handle questions from democrats?

    Mickey mouse could ask the questions for all it matters, as long as the questions are good. The republicans are debating so it's a republican debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Do you actually object to the questions? Do you think the republicans can't handle questions from democrats?
    I actually liked a couple of the questions- others were more like cheapshots/setups. Regardless, the idea behind such a primary debate is for Republicans to ask questions on the issues they care about to the candidates that they will be voting for. It's not supposed to be a chance for Democrat operatives to try to play gotchya games.

    Again, let me mention that the Democrats are still refusing to go on a FoxNews debate because it will be biased.
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    ABC News' Eloise Harper Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., a 2008 presidential candidate,has joined her democratic rivals -- former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C. and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. -- in boycotting a presidential debate hosted by the Fox News Channel.

    On Monday, the Obama campaign said that the senator would boycott a proposed debate to be broadcast by Fox News Channel.

    The first senator to formally boycott the Fox News debate was former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.

    A statement released by the Edwards campaign read:

    "We believe there's just no reason for Democrats to give Fox a platform to advance the right-wing agenda while pretending they're objective. If there was any uncertainty as to Fox's objectivity, it was put to rest when they attacked Democratic candidates, Democratic constituency groups, and the Nevada Democratic party when their last proposed debate was cancelled for lack of support."

    The debate is to be held on September 23 in Detroit and is hosted by the Congressional Black Caucus. link


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    Quote Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
    I checked the debate out for fun and I must say the only one who really impressed me was Huckabee. All others were wanting in one way or another, and especially Romney sent my sleaze-o-meter off the charts.
    I've got to agree- I think Romney is so full of crap, that I'm pretty sure I could smell him thru the TV. He'll say whatever he needs to or take any position just so it gets him the nomination.
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    Default Re: The mess that was the CNN/YouTube debate

    Are the Democrats still refusing to have a debate on Fox?


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    Default Re: The mess that was the CNN/YouTube debate

    I'm voting for Ron Paul.

    After watching that video, I do agree most of his ideas are extreme to a high power, but I find him the most sincere and intelligent of the idiotic group.

    Besides, he's a president. Most of the stuff he says he can't get done anyway. He doesn't have the power to abolish the Federal Reserve or the IRS.

    What he can do, is appoint Supreme Court Judges who have a conservative view on abortion, and end the war in Iraq.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    I'm voting for Ron Paul.
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    I checked the debate out for fun and I must say the only one who really impressed me was Huckabee. All others were wanting in one way or another, and especially Romney sent my sleaze-o-meter off the charts.
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    Yeah, the dems are still crying BIAS BIAS BIAS!!! and refusing to go on fox. I didn't watch the debate but my opinions about the republicans are pretty much already formed.

    Romney-The republican version of Hillary. AKA Slimeyer than a slug's lips.

    Giuliani- 9/11 9/11 9/11 !!!! Still he is decent and the most liberal of the republicans when it comes to social issues so he appeals a little to me.

    McCain- I disagree with him a lot on social issues but you know that what he says is the truth. I think the US could really use that right now.

    Thompson-Boring, not really sure why he is running

    Huckabee-Seems like a great guy but he is too conservative for me.

    Paul-Nuttier than a squirrel's intestines but he appeals because of his libertarianism. The republicans should remember that in 2012.

    Of course it doesn't matter much because I'm 3 months to young to vote in the general election.

    Edit: for the record I would like to see McCain as the prez and Obama as the vice prez and then have Obama be the president in 2012 but that obviously isn't going to happen. Stupid partisanship ruining my perfect white house grumble grumble grumble
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    Default Re: The mess that was the CNN/YouTube debate

    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs

    Of course it doesn't matter much because I'm 3 months to young to vote in the general election.
    Doesn't it suck?

    I was 17 and 2 months on the last election.

    I'll be old enough to buy a case of beer in the next one :).
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