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    Here is a list of top recipients of campaign donations from the dead. First they vote, now they're making political contributions- the difference is that this is somehow perfectly legal... Loophole anyone?
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    Didn't a dead man beat an attorney general or some such... apparently the dead man was a better dancer and speaker.
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    The Democratic National Committee gets almost as much ghost cash as Republican National Committee and the next two organizations combined. I guess the phrase "Better dead than red" has found a new life in today's world.
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    Well, the Democrats have been the minority party, and there's nothing more minor than death....

    I'm just afraid that when they come back to life, I can't be scared because they'll all be arrested for debt.
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    Is this from wills? If so, no problem. Weird though to want to effect the political process after you die... I can understand donating to a single important issue but nothing so broad minded as a political party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregoshi
    The Democratic National Committee gets almost as much ghost cash as Republican National Committee and the next two organizations combined. I guess the phrase "Better dead than red" has found a new life in today's world.
    I live in Illinois and its strange that every election cycle, Abe Lincoln votes democrat!!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Is this from wills? If so, no problem. Weird though to want to effect the political process after you die... I can understand donating to a single important issue but nothing so broad minded as a political party.
    usually, the donations are made from the dead person's estate under the control of the executor(s). they are only legal if the intent of the deceased is known (usually manifested in a will). the donations must abide by the normal rules of campaign donations for the living too, of course.

    i'm surprised the numbers are so small. what's the total raised by the presidential candidates so far, like $400 million? i'd have thought a lot more dead people would support their political ideologies from the beyond. selfish.
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Well, here in Washington the dems were already getting their votes, so why shouldn't they fundraise among the dead?

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    the difference is that this is somehow perfectly legal... Loophole anyone?
    Errrrrr...the difference is that it is perfectly normal , not unusual at all and your point was ????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Errrrrr...the difference is that it is perfectly normal , not unusual at all and your point was ????????
    Riighht.
    Kent Cooper, a campaign-finance expert and former Federal Election Commission official, admits these contributions are "a little strange and unusual."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    Riighht.
    cooper needs to read up on his property law. nothing beyond estate management and execution of wills going on here. it's only unusual to someone that doesn't know anything about a fundamental aspect of the american legal system (wills & trusts).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_John
    cooper needs to read up on his property law. nothing beyond estate management and execution of wills going on here. it's only unusual to someone that doesn't know anything about a fundamental aspect of the american legal system (wills & trusts).
    You seem to be confusing unusual with illegal.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    You seem to be confusing unusual with illegal.....
    how so?

    are these contributions unusual because they are uncommon? perhaps. i don't know how frequently estates are thusly managed.

    are they unusual because they come out of a seldom utilized and relatively alien aspect of law? hardly. anyone with enough property and/or heirs probably knows about wills and estate law. and if they don't, their lawyer does. bequesting part of your estate to a non-heir entity is a pretty normal occurrence.
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Why shouldn´t dead people be able to express their political views? uhm?

    who are you to tell them they can´t support the party that best reflects their views?

    what is the republican party position on graveyard investment compared to the democrats? these are important issues.....these people are interested, tuned in to politics, and yes decomposing but they will not be ignored!!!

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    I support Zombie Greg '08!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Errrrrr...the difference is that it is perfectly normal , not unusual at all and your point was ????????
    How many seconds did you hold down the question mark? (??????????)

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    Riighht.

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    Kent Cooper, a campaign-finance expert and former Federal Election Commission official, admits these contributions are "a little strange and unusual."
    Well Kent cooper is obviously a bit of a muppet
    these are examples of dead people continuing to give and give and give
    as that would suggest that the people have multiple wills , unless of course perhaps they set up a foundation to distribute and invest their legacy over a number of years . Perhaps it was being such a muppet that makes him a former official instead of a current one .

    Speaking of muppets look at this wonderful contribution
    How many seconds did you hold down the question mark? (??????????)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    I live in Illinois and its strange that every election cycle, Abe Lincoln votes democrat!!! LOL
    Come visit us in MA sometime, everyone votes democratic. Often there isnt even a republican challenger at the local/state level offices.

    Op the article dosent clarify if the donations are made from estates or not. I'd rather not go digging but I do recall hearing somewhere in political conversation (In MA ) that estates can be set up to make donations well into future after the benefactors death.
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    If the dead really were voting and funding campaigns, they'd all vote Republican. After all, its the Republicans that want to repeal the death-tax.

    All kidding aside, this is a tax-artifact and has to do with how funds are disbursed out of an estate to continue political gift-giving. Like somebody else said, my biggest surprise was that it wasn't more.
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    What nutter bequested $64,749 to Lyndon LaRouche? I mean, there's crazy and then there's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    What nutter bequested $64,749 to Lyndon LaRouche? I mean, there's crazy and then there's crazy.
    you sound like a "lifey". from the dead's perspective, larouche is the only reasonable choice.
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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