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    Well then don't talk about the Romans or the Greeks: it's the simple result of a patronimicum.

    Besides what do you think every Mac. & O' prefiix as in Mac.Donald, Mac.Gregor, O' Donell etc. etc. refers to? Or the -son suffix as in Hansson, Ericson etc. etc.?
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    IMO, the very worst is the Roman naming of women. Ah, my dear Cornelia. And little sister Cornelia. And little little sister Cornelia.

    Makes it hard to provide both something that is reasonably historically accurate, and user-friendly at the same time.
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    Without any authority to back this up, I suspect that there were other ways to refer to the women in Rome that simply did not make it in to the written or oral tradition. Even if it was just nick names.

    Of course, the evidence against this line of reasoning is that while it is understandable that Livy, Polybius, and Seutonius don't speak of nick names, there is a chance that the nick names should show up in Plautus or Terrence. And as far as I know, they don't.

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    As for New City New, that sounds weird to us, but in comparison, how many people when they read "New York" or "New Jersey" think of the name as an adjective and a noun? I suspect that many people slur the two together into a single entity in their mind. The opposite would be that the "New" would only be used as an adjective when there was risk of confusing the American City with the British one.

    Just a thought as I was reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callicles
    Without any authority to back this up, I suspect that there were other ways to refer to the women in Rome that simply did not make it in to the written or oral tradition. Even if it was just nick names.
    Sure there were. How about "wife of" or "sister of"? To my knowledge, the most personal way of adressing a women left from Roman days is the account of some husband's feelings towards his wife. But where did I read that translation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callicles
    As for New City New, that sounds weird to us, but in comparison, how many people when they read "New York" or "New Jersey" think of the name as an adjective and a noun? I suspect that many people slur the two together into a single entity in their mind. The opposite would be that the "New" would only be used as an adjective when there was risk of confusing the American City with the British one.

    Just a thought as I was reading this.
    Close to that, what will they call the new city if they rebuild New Orleans on a different site- something that at least appears to be a debate at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeran
    Close to that, what will they call the new city if they rebuild New Orleans on a different site- something that at least appears to be a debate at the moment?
    Newer Orleans.

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    yes yes those Romans...always thinking practical and having no emotions.

    so why give your children different names if it's easier to simply number them lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C.Cinna
    yes yes those Romans...always thinking practical and having no emotions.

    so why give your children different names if it's easier to simply number them lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C.Cinna
    yes yes those Romans...always thinking practical and having no emotions.

    so why give your children different names if it's easier to simply number them lol
    Yes, but the roman numbers sound so nice... They really do. Septimus is the one I love the most. Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Burakuku
    Yes, but the roman numbers sound so nice... They really do. Septimus is the one I love the most. Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C.Cinna
    so why give your children different names if it's easier to simply number them lol
    They do that in China sometimes. #1 Son, #2 Son... etc.
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