What does everyone have against Rome?

**Pharnakes** · 12-01-2007, 20:21

Actualy, I support the imperials in star wars.

The rebels have such a ridicoulously and impracticaly fluffy view of the universe. The imperialists are realists. The rebels on the other hand don't seem to appreciate that only the power is power, and no matter how much honour you have and how noble your goals, the universe doesn't give a damn.

It always annoys me so much in books and films when the good guys win from what is to any intelegent person a clearly untenable position, with a logistical nightmare, and yet they resoundingly and over-whelmingly crush the bad guts, with mimimum casualties, except for one or two carefuly chosen characters, who you know are as good as dead five minutes into the film/50pages into the book. God, why can't the bad guys win for once? At least it would provided a bit of variation.

**Zarax** · 12-01-2007, 20:26

There is no good or bad in history.
Just different shades of ugly...

**Zangor** · 12-01-2007, 21:26

Originally Posted by Pharnakes

Actualy, I support the imperials in star wars.

The rebels have such a ridicoulously and impracticaly fluffy view of the universe. The imperialists are realists. The rebels on the other hand don't seem to appreciate that only the power is power, and no matter how much honour you have and how noble your goals, the universe doesn't give a damn.

It always annoys me so much in books and films when the good guys win from what is to any intelegent person a clearly untenable position, with a logistical nightmare, and yet they resoundingly and over-whelmingly crush the bad guts, with mimimum casualties, except for one or two carefuly chosen characters, who you know are as good as dead five minutes into the film/50pages into the book. God, why can't the bad guys win for once? At least it would provided a bit of variation.

Wow, I'm making a bad habit of actually posting. I'm ruining my amazing lurkiness! I've actually made more than one post in the same thread now! What's next, actually posting on a regular basis?!

Anyway, try reading 1984. It has a suitably depressing ending.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 12-01-2007, 21:28

Originally Posted by Zangor

Wow, I'm making a bad habit of actually posting. I'm ruining my amazing lurkiness! I've actually made more than one post in the same thread now! What's next, actually posting on a regular basis?!

Anyway, try reading 1984. It has a suitably depressing ending.

That's funny, I was just thinking about the exact same book when I read that post.

**Maeran** · 12-01-2007, 21:36

Or you could treat Star Wars Episodes I-III as a seperate entity from the other films. Then a scheming Palpatine wins.

1984 is good for that, but it was the result of Orwell's anti-Stalinist political view (although he supported communism in the Spanish Civil War). It was a Warning. As was Animal Farm, which had a similarly dark ending.

In Catch-22 the protagonist (would you call Yossarian a hero? I would, but, yannknow...) escapes, but the bad side of authority is still in authority.

**blank** · 12-01-2007, 22:27

Originally Posted by Pharnakes

Actually, I support the imperials in star wars.

The rebels have such a ridiculously and impractically fluffy view of the universe. The imperialists are realists. The rebels on the other hand don't seem to appreciate that only the power is power, and no matter how much honor you have and how noble your goals, the universe doesn't give a damn.

It always annoys me so much in books and films when the good guys win from what is to any intelligent person a clearly untenable position, with a logistical nightmare, and yet they resoundingly and overwhelmingly crush the bad guts, with minimum casualties, except for one or two carefully chosen characters, who you know are as good as dead five minutes into the film/50pages into the book. God, why can't the bad guys win for once? At least it would provided a bit of variation.

Imperials have cool walkers and stormtroopers, rebels are... rebel scum

I usually tend to side with the "evil" side because in most cases the "good" guys are too naive, spineless and/or gay *cough*Luke Skywalker*cough*

**Emperor Burakuku** · 12-01-2007, 22:31

I always wanted to be a jedy but it seems I am unable and I always turn sith.

And it's women's fault!

**NeoSpartan** · 12-01-2007, 23:37

Originally Posted by Emperor Burakuku

I always wanted to be a jedy but it seems I am unable and I always turn sith.

And it's women's fault!

u ain't the only one

**Lgk** · 12-02-2007, 11:51

"What does everyone have against Rome?"

Nobody likes cheaters, i guess.

**Thaatu** · 12-02-2007, 11:55

To be fair, history has very few honest players.

**Emperor Burakuku** · 12-02-2007, 11:58

OK... Repeating myself but if I need to, I need to. Like I said before, I am tired of people saying: Romans were cheaters, Greeks were gay, Persians loosers, etc, etc, etc. Some of them are our ancestors and some ppl get offended by this attitude. Not all Romans were bad, it's nothing wrong with homosexuality, Persians were a great empire and they proved it by rebirth, etc. What is wrong with the human race? Can't we just get along. And I don't think it's about english.

**Rodion Romanovich** · 12-02-2007, 17:34

Originally Posted by blank

Imperials have cool walkers and stormtroopers, rebels are... rebel scum

I usually tend to side with the "evil" side because in most cases the "good" guys are too naive, spineless and/or gay *cough*Luke Skywalker*cough*

Yes, the rebels in SW are definitely in need of an internal revolt to overthrow the joke of a leader and leadership they have, since they're risking the safety of all who support the rebel cause. I still support their faction more than the tin-cans that the other faction is