The Netherlands

[Bijo]

Ah, the Netherlands. I have lived there for a very long time, my whole life, and do you know what I think about it? Well, what I think isn't really relevant. Let us criticize this... this... "country" *spits on the floor that was just cleaned*

This country is a piece of crap internationally and it seems to be following the USA more or less (regarding style, culture, and politics), as if it's some kind of extension of the USA in Westen Europe.

This country is in ruin organization-wise. Education institutes are rubbish, for many colleges do not function properly. The politics are dirty. Regarding work it seems many a fool just mess stuff up.

It seems both society and politics do their very best to make allochtonen know they are not welcome.

Many people, very much like any other people in other countries, are shallow and stupid, and they will probably not pull themselves out of it -- this pit of ignorance and foolishness -- even if they wanted.

Many people in this country have this.... "tendancy" which is what I call it. The tendancy to "bow" to the will of an authority if this authority has something they want. Even if injustice has been delivered upon them, many just accept this injustice instead of fighting it. "Oh, you have damaged me, destroyed me, hurt me, stole from me, used me, and now you're trying to get rid of me, but I will still bow to you like a good submissive European because I fear you."

It seems as if allochtonen are not allowed to be happy.

Many white Dutch people FEAR allochtonen.

There is much racism and social discrimination usually exercized by simpletons.

Allochtonen are not allowed positions higher than those of autochtonen, even if they have the required skill.

It is made sure that allochtonen will be hindered in their social and economical advance, because it is not allowed for allochtonen to be successful.

Those who is intelegent is lowrt and set back buy the edumcasion system fruim yung age alredy,

Dutch cuisine is rubbish

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Well, what the ****. I don't need to continue: you get the goddamn point.[/rant]

[Husar]

foolishness

tendancy

It's "tendency"!

And you wrote it wrong twice so don't say it was a typo.

You might also want to explain what "allochtonen"(foreigners/immigrants?) and "autochtonen"(natives/inlanders?) are or just use the ******* english word for it!

Things develop, so do humans, in the middle ages you could most likely not have written this because:

• there would have been no internet
• you would very likely not have been able to write at all
• you might have been busy working for your lord and your own survival
• some random bandits/war/disease/whatever may have killed you already

There, I'd say some things have improved since then so maybe those issues you could think about in your free time, which was likely granted to you by certain achievements we made since the middle ages, will be gone after a while as well.

I heard the danish people are the happiest of the world on average because they have rather low expectations.

I'm not saying your criticism is entirely invalid, but what purpose does this rant serve? I'm happy if it makes you feel better but I fear next you'll ask for the eradication of the Netherlands or so and to some degree you seem to be overreacting.

[InsaneApache]

I like 'Holland' they have some very nice tea rooms.

[Bijo]

I know it is spelled with an 'e' instead of an 'a', Husar, but that was just to test the alertness of readers ;) But regard the word: does it not look "better" with an 'a'? I'm too fatigued due to lack of sleep for a long time, so my brain is functioning at very low strength, hence spelling errors and typos.

The words allochtoon and autochtoon are probably known in English in their own forms. If not so, one could easily look for their meanings.

Anyway.... I would not call for some kind of "eradication" or something of the like: I would rather call for a re-education of man or something like it. This country is just... just.... arrrgh!

[Kralizec]

Neither "autochtonen" or "allochtonen" has an equivalent English term, or at least I've never heard of one. "Autochtoon" would be a person with only Dutch parents, an "allochtoon" is either a foreigner or a person with at least one foreign parent.

Anyway Bijo, you're wrong. Normally I'd try to write up something that has at least the semblance of a rebuttal, but there's next to nothing to adress here. A person who says:

Allochtonen are not allowed positions higher than those of autochtonen, even if they have the required skill.

It is made sure that allochtonen will be hindered in their social and economical advance, because it is not allowed for allochtonen to be successful.

Is obviously full of shit anyway.

[Husar]

I know it is spelled with an 'e' instead of an 'a', Husar, but that was just to test the alertness of readers ;)

Bad excuse, my teachers tried that numerous times already.

But regard the word: does it not look "better" with an 'a'? I'm too fatigued due to lack of sleep for a long time, so my brain is functioning at very low strength, hence spelling errors and typos.

No it doesn't but the reason is valid, happens to all of us, it's just that not all of us claim to be among the most intelligent and superior people of their country.

The words allochtoon and autochtoon are probably known in English in their own forms. If not so, one could easily look for their meanings.

Yes, you could, it's rather inefficient if we all have to look it up than if just you did it, waste of man-hours, if everybody in your country behaves like that it's no wonder it's ****** up.

Anyway.... I would not call for some kind of "eradication" or something of the like: I would rather call for a re-education of man or something like it. This country is just... just.... arrrgh!

Just like your posts then.

Lots of "", I know, but I don't want anyone to think I wouldn't like you or so, just think you need to relax a bit and not just look down onto other people you deem inferior.

[woad&fangs]

*applauds Husar*

[KukriKhan]

Now that our venerable Bijo has vented his spleen (that will be $14.95, please, by the way), and garnered member reaction...

I close this thread so that other posters are not tempted to to overdo their language - and just chalk this up to Saturday night frolicks.

Thanks for all contributions.