can't get the seleukia reforms...

[Digby Tatham Warter]

Don't pursue the reforms. It does not make sense to willfully lose a battle so that the enemy can show its superiority. Play to win the battles, and let the loss happen if it happens.

The problem is the Seleukids, say at Rhapia for example fielded alot of cav(quite alot of it heavy, as far as I know), and it was the cataphracts who roughed up the Roman legionaires at Magnesia(I think).

In earlier versions of EB my Seleukid cav arm would consist of 1 companion and 2 cataphracts, now to have a decent heavy cavalry arm to represent what they actually had in reality, I may field 3 companion(who were not that numerous). Although I may see what I can recruit out East to make up this sad deficiency.

The Seleukids just don't feel like the Seleukids without their cav arm IMO.

[anubis88]

I totally agree with Digby Tatham Warter.... It just isn't the same

is there any way to trigger the reforms manually?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Sure there is. By chance.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Open export_descr_buildings.txt and search for the precursor level of the "cataphract" building. That one will have a weapon bonus of -1; change it to 0 and you'll have your cats. Dunno if it's save-game compatible though.

Btw: Kinsmen cavalry are a quite useful and relatively affordable heavy cavalry arm.

[Digby Tatham Warter]

Sure there is. By chance.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Open export_descr_buildings.txt and search for the precursor level of the "cataphract" building. That one will have a weapon bonus of -1; change it to 0 and you'll have your cats. Dunno if it's save-game compatible though.

Btw: Kinsmen cavalry are a quite useful and relatively affordable heavy cavalry arm.

Thanks for the post, I was thinking about the Kinsmen cavalry. When I finish shift I will check the recruitment viewer to see if I can get my grubs on the heavy cav who have a lion or is it a griffin on their shield, I think their called scythian nobles?

[burn_again]

Sure there is. By chance.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Open export_descr_buildings.txt and search for the precursor level of the "cataphract" building. That one will have a weapon bonus of -1; change it to 0 and you'll have your cats. Dunno if it's save-game compatible though.

I have tried that and it did not work for me (I assume that if I start a new campaign, cataphracts should be available immediately if I build the necessary MIC-level).

I have noticed that there are no "cataphract" precursor buildings in my campaigns, like it was in 0.8, so perhaps this is the problem? I think I have all fixes installed..

[burn_again]

Ah, forget my last post, I see the precursor building comes with the reform now.

There is a way to cheat for the reform, if you'll give 2 of your FMs the ImpressedByCats trait you'll have your cataphracts 20 turns later. I tested it, worked fine, I had cataphracts in 267.

[Constantine the Great]

Ah, forget my last post, I see the precursor building comes with the reform now.

There is a way to cheat for the reform, if you'll give 2 of your FMs the ImpressedByCats trait you'll have your cataphracts 20 turns later. I tested it, worked fine, I had cataphracts in 267.

ImpressedByCats? Are you serious?

[bovi]

Yes. Cats = Cataphracts.

[anubis88]

Thanx for the info but i got the reform... it was quite sudden.... no trait's on any of my generals, just looked in antioch and there they were... I did loose 2 battles in the same AI turn, but both of my generals died on that occasion. Perhaps they got the trait for a second and the reforms happend?

I'm just glad i have the Cata's now. Even though i play on VH/VH i crushed a ptoly general who had 73 bodyguards with them alone... They RULE!!!

[Tellos Athenaios]

BeatenByCats is another such trait. And SeleukidsDevelopCats too, IIRC.