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    Default Re: Votes Defeat Chavez

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
    Our international forays are the main reason that we are so advanced and safe.


    Perhaps in another thread someday we can tangle on this one Tuff but I literally almost crapped myself when I read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
    Our international forays are the main reason that we are so advanced and safe.
    Ha...ha...HA

    I would love to go back to a simpler time, but I feel that the second we withdraw from the world stage, we will be in a downward spiral - defensively and in every other way.
    That is our problem how again? I'm so sick of this crap. Let someone else sort it out for once.

    All I want to do is live a peaceful life, raise a family, make a good income, and die happy.
    I do love the idea though. You should vote for Ron Paul.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Ha...ha...HA



    That is our problem how again? I'm so sick of this crap. Let someone else sort it out for once.

    All I want to do is live a peaceful life, raise a family, make a good income, and die happy.


    I don't believe that the opinion is laughable. Many people believe just that and it dominates nearly all of American national politics. Debatable, yes. Laughable? probably not.
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    I didn't make the point about the "right" to intervene in the governance of other countries just for everyone to say: "I'm just saying it how it is". I was asking you wether you thought it was the best and right thing, for the world. Not from a selfish "it's good for us" point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice

    All I want to do is live a peaceful life, raise a family, make a good income, and die happy.

    Have you looked into the effects of what you support on the economy?

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    "Jorge Castañeda, Mexico's former foreign minister, writes in Newsweek online that Hugo Chavez attrempted to overturn the vote on his dictator-for-life constitutional "reforms" in Venezuela.

    ... by midweek enough information had emerged to conclude that Chávez did, in fact, try to overturn the results. As reported in El Nacional, and confirmed to me by an intelligence source, the Venezuelan military high command virtually threatened him with a coup d'état if he insisted on doing so. Finally, after a late-night phone call from Raúl Isaías Baduel, a budding opposition leader and former Chávez comrade in arms, the president conceded-but with one condition: he demanded his margin of defeat be reduced to a bare minimum in official tallies, so he could save face and appear as a magnanimous democrat in the eyes of the world. So after this purportedly narrow loss Chávez did not even request a recount, and nearly every Latin American colleague of Chávez's congratulated him for his "democratic" behavior..."

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/74230

    (I see that Xiahou has already posted this)
    Last edited by ShaiHulud; 12-12-2007 at 11:40.
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