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    In my recent games I found out that I usually expect for a general with appropriate gens to prepare one to be my main general. To what point does gens influence the aquisition of traits? For instance, is it possiblie for someone with gens fabian to become a great general? Is it much more difficult? How?


    And the second question refers to the Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous. How much do these influence in the aquisition of certain traits? Are they more important than gens? How likely is someone with a Sharp father to be Sharp too? Or is it just random?



    K, lots of question, but if you can guess any of the answers, I´d appreciate :)

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    what are gens supposed to be?
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    Gaius Iulius Caesar.

    Gaius of the Stirps Caesar of the Gens Iulii.
    The gens is the larger family to which a Roman belonged. They are either Plebean or Patrician.

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    I don't think any of those would answer his questions. I'm afraid I can't either, except for one: Hereditery is included in eb, the son stands a decent chance of taking after his father.
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    As I see it, the Gens doesn't affect anything at all except perhaps the name, since there's only 'threshold' related to the Gens trait. Whereas sharpness, charisma and vigour all have qualifiers that go 'affects GoodLeader 1/2/3, GoodAdministrator' etc etc. So on first look I'd say the Gens don't actually affect anything except to differentiate a Cornelius from a Statius or an Aemilius.

    What's stirps, though, and is that the correct spelling? Always wondered what Caesar actually was. Clan? Family?


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    stirps is the branch of a gens. So, for example, the Plebeian Sempronii and several different stirps, the most important of which were Sempronii Blaesi, Sempronii Gracchae, Sempronii Longi, Sempronii Sophi, and Sempronii Tuditani (according to wikipedia).

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    A Roman name consisted of a praenomen (Caivs, Marcvs etc), a nomen (Ivlivs, Licinivs etc) and a cognomen (Caesar, Crassvs etc).

    The nomen indicated which gens or clan, the bearer belonged to. The cognomen indicated to which branch of said clan the bearer belonged.

    Sometimes someone would have a fourth name. This was usually because he had been adopted. For example, Gaivs Octavivs Thvrinvs (Augustus) was adopted by Gaivs Jvlivs Caesar on his death. He then became Gaivs Jvlivs Caesar Octavianvs. The suffix -anvs was added to his nomen to indicate which clan he had been adopted from.
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    Default Re: Gens and traits importance

    Quote Originally Posted by Akashic
    In my recent games I found out that I usually expect for a general with appropriate gens to prepare one to be my main general. To what point does gens influence the aquisition of traits? For instance, is it possiblie for someone with gens fabian to become a great general? Is it much more difficult? How?
    A character's gens does influence how likely he is to acquire certain traits, but no gens has much of an advantage over any other where overall military effectiveness is concerned. Members of some gens are more likely to be good recruiters, members of another to be good tacticians, and members of still another to be poor besiegers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akashic
    And the second question refers to the Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous. How much do these influence in the aquisition of certain traits? Are they more important than gens? How likely is someone with a Sharp father to be Sharp too? Or is it just random?
    These are quite important. For instance, Intelligence helps a character learn from experience and advance through levels of (mostly) favorable traits more quickly. These are more important than gens, and a character with an intelligent (energetic, charismatic) father is more likely to be intelligent (energetic, charismatic) himself.
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