Owned by uber levy slingers?

[NeoSpartan]

Guys.... the OP said it

"However, these slingers were veterans, and had accumulated 4-5 chevrons. So I was facing slingers with 6-7 attack + AP"

Remember they also get morale boost with that extra expireince so they WILL NOT rout easely.

Its no suprise he go his Romani manhandeled by the Gauls.

Tip: Don't F* With Anything North Of the Alps

[antisocialmunky]

Slingers are one the best unit classes in the game. Atleast they weren't as insanely OP as the last version though.

[Danest]

Play like the Romans, lose like the Romans. They did poorly against fast-moving missile troops, so you can probably expect the same. Though, I think you're role-playing foolish Romans like Crassus -- Great Roman leaders could adapt, and do something that no other Roman had done before. Role play a Caesar rather than a Crassus, take some cavalry (even disband them when you're done if you want), and smash those slingers. ;)

[Danest]

As far as excellent troop-types, I think the persian archer-spearmen are excellent as well, against all but the most heavily armored/shielded of infantry.

[Intranetusa]

Play like the Romans, lose like the Romans. They did poorly against fast-moving missile troops, so you can probably expect the same. Though, I think you're role-playing foolish Romans like Crassus -- Great Roman leaders could adapt, and do something that no other Roman had done before. Role play a Caesar rather than a Crassus, take some cavalry (even disband them when you're done if you want), and smash those slingers. ;)

As soon as I hit the Marian reforms, I plan to send a full stack of post Marian legionaries + auxillaries, unsupported, deep into Seleucid/Parthian territory.

Recreating Carrahe by getting my full stack legionaries slaughtered by cataphracts & horse archers sounds fun. :)

[geala]

Better recreate the defence of Syria against the Parthian invasion afterwards where the Parthians were ripped to pieces by the Romans. They were far from invincible.

Slingers, archers and skirmisher are too strong in some aspect. I accept the ap feature of the slingers (although it is historically wrong), but not the close combat performance against cavalry. The problem is mainly the too high moral. When I once again had to watch a bunch of slingers killing many of my Hetairoi in close combat I decided to put things a bit more in accordance to history. Loose order troops were extremely vulnerable to cavalry and such should it be in EB. I therefore lowered the moral of all troops with missiles and javelins. Now it's a bit better

[Pharnakes]

In what way were slings not ap in history?

[Charge]

Stone can pierce armour?