Out of character thread XVII

[econ21]

Just out of curiosity, since this is my first Diet, what kind of thing can I expect? Does it start kind of formally, or just a mass of Electors fighting to get their issues to be considered, oy maybe something in between?

More the mass fighting, really.

Normally, the Chancellor signs off with a final report and then the Kaiser opens the Diet. But then whoever proposes Edicts or CAs early has a chance to shape the debate.

Ideally, candidates for Chancellor post manifestoes early so that the debate - and edicts - can be centred around those.

Most Electors can only propose one Edict or CA, so in theory that limits the rush to get issues considered. Houses can propose three, IIRC, so there should be some side discussion in the House threads about those.

A key thing is to get the required two seconders for Edicts you support before the Diet closes.

[Ignoramus]

Are the rebels going to present at the Diet? I know it sounds rather silly for secessionists who have destroyed the Reich's western frontier to be present, but I heard some rumours from TC that Wolfgang might indeed be present. Can econ confirm/deny this?

And I'm just asking some advice to get the mod working.

[Zim]

Thanks, Econ21 and Overknight. I kind of figured it might get a bit raucous as people debated their issues. I'll check out one or two of the old Diet threads tonight, so I can get a feel for it.

I remember that electors get one proposal. I'll be thinking long and hard about that one. Don't want my first one to be wasted.

I wish I could run for Chancelor. For Jan, having taken Bruges and getting Alexander Luther to help him, getting at least a few votes and paving the way for winning at the sesion after that one might have been possible. For my new guy, with not a single accomplishment under his belt, it might be tougher. Guess I'll have another session to even lose an election.

Ignoramus, I just downloaded the mod to my desktop. Then I extracted the files into my MTW2 folder. It worked for me then.

[Ignoramus]

Actually, Jan's death does you a favour - no one would vote for a rebel to become Chancellor; no one would dare take that risk.

[Zim]

Actually, Jan's death does you a favour - no one would vote for a rebel to become Chancellor; no one would dare take that risk.

Interesting, but would Wilhelm von Noaccomplishments be any more likely to win? I guess I'd have no chance either way.

[Ignoramus]

It says this when I try and run it:

"The name 'I:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\medieval2.exe --io.file_first' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct."

[econ21]

Hi Ignoramus, don't go away!

I was just replying to your request for help installing the mod by a PM, but it might be better to do it publicly as Factionheir and anyone else can chip in about installing the mod.

It seems to me that your game is not reading the modded files. That raises the question, have you ever successfully installed kotorfix? Because the modded files for the Staufen mini-mod should be read in exactly the same way as those for kotorfix. Please can you tell me - what is Arnold called when you load up a savegame? Is he the Saint or the Inspriring? If he is the Saint, then you have not successfully installed kotorfix. If he is in the Inspiring, then getting your game to read the modded files is not the problem.

To get the game to read modded files, what you need to do is run M2TW with the --io.file_first
switch.

There are two ways to do this:

(a) go to the M2TW shortcut on your desktop. Right click and choose properties. Then under target you should have something like:

"C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval\medieval2.exe"

you need to edit it to become:

"C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval\medieval2.exe --io.file_first"

Click apply and ok. Then next time you run the game, it should work from the modded files you have put in the subdirectories not the original unpacked files.

(b) Alternatively, you could use an editor such as Word to create a file called, say, "kotor.bat". In that file write:

"C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval\medieval2.exe --io.file_first"

Save the file as text only (not Word format). Then if you make a shortcut to that file and paste it onto your desktop, clicking on that shortcut should get the game to boot up using the modded files.

This is from memory - I can't access M2TW at the moment.

[econ21]

Are the rebels going to present at the Diet? I know it sounds rather silly for secessionists who have destroyed the Reich's western frontier to be present, but I heard some rumours from TC that Wolfgang might indeed be present. Can econ confirm/deny this?

At the start of the cataclysm, Tincow outlined a one-off system for giving rebels extra influence in the Diet, so OOC, I think the intention was to include them. IC, including them would be partly to try to heal things up and perhaps work out new political arrangements.

However, if - as Hummel's last private message to the Kaiser indicates - he wants complete secession from the Reich, then question marks would arise over whether he would want to attend and whether the Kaiser want to admit him.

It says this when I try and run it:

"The name 'I:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\medieval2.exe --io.file_first' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct."

So you are using the shortcut method? Are you putting the path and filename in double quotes ie " rather than ' ? What happens if you remove the --io.file_first switch? Does M2TW run?

What is Arnold called if you load up a savegame the way you normally play KotR?

[Ignoramus]

He's called "the Saint".

Without the --io.file_first switch, Medieval2 runs perfectly.

[Zim]

There's a way to add a lcouple of lines to your config file and get everything work. That might be easier. I could check mine to see what you have to type in if you'd like.

[econ21]

Ignoramus, given Arnold's name, it seems you have not installed Kotorfix.

I confess I am stumped why the game does not run with the switch.

Zim has suggested an alternative approach. Go to your medieval2.preference.cfg file and open it with a text editor and add the following to the top:

[io]
file_first = 1

[log]
to = logs/system.log.txt
level = * error

This will tell the game to use the files it finds in the data directory instead of those in the packs. It will also enable error logging to a custom error log, which is highly recommended, but not strictly necessary.

Please try this and get back to us.

[TinCow]

Make sure the .cfg file is marked read-only AFTER you alter it. I had similar problems when mine was not, because the game overwrites the changes to the .cfg file.

[econ21]

Make sure the .cfg file is marked read-only AFTER you alter it. I had similar problems when mine was not, because the game overwrites the changes to the .cfg file.

Just in case you don't know how to make it read only, Ignoramus, go to windows explorer, right click on the file and choose properties. At the bottomg there should be a read-only box you can tick. Tick it, press apply and ok.