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    So I'm supposed to get this swordsman event in 2-3 battles? I've fought at least 15 in my campaign.
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    The guy who gets the honour as to survive.
    Only has to be one guy.

    From deepest darkest memory much like going up in generals rank you need ~n^2 kills per honour rank. And that you need an honour 3 guy.

    Honour / kills hth / ranged fire
    0 = 0 kills / 0 kills
    1 = 1 kills / 2 kills
    2 = 4 kills / 8 kills
    3 = 8 kills / 16 kills

    Now to make things complicated I think the honour of the defeated opponent is used too in the same value. So a honour 2 opponent is equivalent to killing 4 0 rank opponents.

    So I think you have to have a surviving warrior with 8 kills (or 16 in archery). Or a single kill of a rank 3 opponent.

    This needs to be tested since it is years since I have played STW:
    Now things that will speed it up is fighting higher honour opponents. You could start with higher honour too. And that has a double effect... your honour 1 warriors need to get 7 kills, also if they are killed the enemy will now have higher honour and will be worth more.

    So an honour 1 warrior should only need to kill 1 honour 0 enemy and 3 honour 1 warriors to get the swordsmen event.

    This is about as hazy as a fog enshrouded map and tenous as grip of holding on as when that fog is filled with monks surrounding your Ashi gunners mind you... so take it with a pound of salt.

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    After much searching I found it!!!

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/newre...te=1&p=1777549

    Quote Originally Posted by Younger, Sexier and Obviously More Intelligent Me
    Five Honour 0 units fought two Honour 2 Units on custom.

    All the Honour 0 men who lived and had killed one person where rank 2.

    All the Honour 0 men who lived and had killed two people where rank 3.

    Many of the Honour 2 men who killed one or two opponents stayed at rank 2. I speculate that the ones who did increase in rank killed a freshly minted rank 2 opponent (rank 0 killed rank 2 went to rank 2, then killed by one of the original rank 2 comrades).

    I believe it is a binary formula where going up one rank takes;

    2^(current rank) honour kills [hk].

    Routing opponents = 0 honour
    Honour Kill rating of an opponent = 2^(honour rank)

    So a rank 0 opponent is worth one hk.
    And a rank 2 opponent is worth 4 hks.

    To get to rank 1 from rank 0 takes one hk.
    To get to rank 2 from rank 1 takes two hks.
    To get to rank 3 from rank 2 takes four hks.

    So if you kill someone of higher honour who is not routing you will go to their rank.

    If you kill someone of equal rank you will go up one rank.

    Daimyo are honour rank 5. So kill one and you will progress to at least rank 5.

    Generals are sometimes rank 3. So if they die they will trigger the legendary swordsmen event (assuming their killer survives)
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    Uh...layman's terms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xehh II
    Uh...layman's terms?
    Just let one group of soldiers kill a lot and make sure they don't die
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xehh II
    Uh...layman's terms?
    Go kill a general and have the killer survive.
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    Thanks, that was much easier to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xehh II
    So I'm supposed to get this swordsman event in 2-3 battles? I've fought at least 15 in my campaign.
    How strange. Do you have your faster-moving soldiers run down the enemy when they break? Good for racking up the kills and gaining honour.

    I've never had to fight more than a handful of battles before getting the legendary swordsman event.
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    I started a new game as Imagawa and I finally got the swordsman guy, it took 3 defensive battles against Takeda.
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    Congrats, mate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martok
    Congrats, mate!
    Thanks but after I eliminated Takeda I was displaced to my Kyushu provinces by the Oda/Hojo alliance, Hojo took over Takeda provinces when I defeated them.
    I started a vicious war against Shimazu to stop them defeating the Mori, my allies.
    So at the point in my game, I control Kyushu and half of Shikoku, the Shimazu still stubbornly hold the other half while my Mori allies are battling the Oda for Kyoto.
    I don't know what the Hojo and Uesugi are doing but I know that Oda and Hojo broke their alliance and started fighting each other soon after conquering my main provinces.
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    as i recall the fastest way to do it was as Pape-san suggested- get your hamamato to do some slaughtering
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