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    Quote Originally Posted by Long lost Caesar
    Gaul. A land of rolling hills, strong rivers...and Aedui. God I hate them. I have at least 4 legions (army with 15 units) in Gaul, but the experienced Gaesaetae are always a problem for me. Gallic armies with a few of these hard asses in em i can take. Its just when seven supported by Solduros come at me i begin to wet myself. How would you guys tackle this situation? Keeping in mind I outfit European legions with

    -1 General
    -2 Brihentin Cav
    -2 Sortaroas (sp.)
    -2 triarii
    -4 neitos
    -4 principes

    Any tips would be great, as I need to know if there's a better method to kill these crazy nudists. Once I've won the war ill introduce Gaul to clothes. "This is a toga, these are sandals..."
    Ur army suck... too small to take on the FULL MIGHT of Gallic elites!

    My sugestions... (although I as a Gallic player shouldn't)

    (Hellenic style variation)
    -1 General
    -5 Cavarly (brihentin, or pedites extraordinary)
    -3 Helvetii or Pezetaroi (sp)
    -4 Triarii
    -1 Urundous (sp) (the naked regular guys)
    -4 Principes.
    -2 Velitets

    (non-Hellenic style)

    -1 General
    -4 Cavarly (heavy)
    -4 Triarii
    -4 Neitos/Samniti Extraordinary (sp)
    -4 Principes.
    -2 Velitets (sp)
    -1 Urundous (sp)

    Three main differences:
    1. MORE MEN!
    2. No crappy missiles against heavy infantry.
    3. Stronger Cavarly arm.
    Last edited by NeoSpartan; 12-09-2007 at 02:49.

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    Back door bandit Member Apgad's Avatar
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    Yeah, I'd go with more calvary too. I'm pretty sure the whole "intimidated by nearby enemy" doesn't apply to horses. Probably because they've got a bigger "weapon", if you know what I mean...
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    Involuntary Gaesatae Member The Celtic Viking's Avatar
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    Yeah, the gaesatae only frighten enemy infantry.

    I would however suggest throwing, hurling, slinging, shooting, conjuring and catapulting anything you can on them. Gaesatae are weak to the ranged stuff, and that their experience is useless in defending against it doesn't make things worse for you.

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    Set your units in guard mode in two rows and wait them out. They'll get tired before you do and then its time to hack them to bits.
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    To the OP:

    You really can't handle that with just 15 units. More cavalry is a must (though the Gaesatae also eat through cavalry, you can pound the Solduros with your AP Brihentin) and slingers also. Many, many slingers. 6 units would be a nice minimum. They have the longest range of any missiles ingame in the West, so that'll give you more volleys. Not to mention you can shave their armour from 5 to 2/3, and you get 30 shots at them instead of the regulation 15 of archers, and if your slingers are experienced, better still. Mori Gaesum, as mentioned before, or even Appea Gaedotos, will suffice too. Hold them with your Neitos and phalanx troops, then hammer them from behind with slingers for gaesatae and brihentin for solduros, while flanking with your principes. And pray hard your Neitos don't break before.

    I think the intimidation effect of Gaesatae isn't cumulative, so 7 gaesatae in one place makes no more difference morale-wise than 1 unit present. So you don't have to worry about that at least. Let them pile on your phalanx. But not so deeply that some units can disengage to counter when you begin flanking/rearing.


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    Get more missiles, you want a high attack value and lots of ammo. Then fight a battle of manoeuvre. Attack their army on the strategic map, so they will wait for you rather than coming at you on the tactical map. Send in skirmishers and cavalry feints to pull their army out of shape (not actual attacks), and lure off units one or two at a time then mob them. Lure their cavalry onto your spears.

    Once your slingers/skirmishers can roam free without fear of cavalry etc, start long flanking moves to put them behind the nudists. If they turn to face the missiles, move some cavalry up close to them (without fighting) to get them pointed back the way you want. Then fire away, you won't see much effect at first as you take the first hitpoint but after a while they'll start dying like regular celts.

    Do the closest thing you can to horse archer tactics, basically.

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    I agree with antisogialmunky guard mode is a very powerful tool, especially for the Romanii, your units will hang on longer against elites and buy time to get round the flanks and rear.
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