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    Coffee farmer extraordinaire Member spmetla's Avatar
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    It is funny though how people try to act tough in a playground or something like that.

    I seem to not have problems with 'punks' at all, I keep to myself but unless I know the area I take the bus or drive my car instead of walking. Hawaii's pretty mellow anyhow, at least for the most part. Been to a few places where "haoles" such as myself are certainly not welcome but then those places tend to have people that are more likely crack/iceheads instead of merely loitering so avoiding said area is important. I hate the idea of the raving mad drug addict trying to start something with me, had one crazy yelling as he went down the street but he just seemed to be yelling out of lunacy instead of at someone.

    I imagine if young punks start to feel their oats and try to push people around then the real thugs of the area would put them in their place after a few days.

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    I once had two young guys at a bus stop in the village where my parents live and they started asking me questions.
    That wanted to know whether I thought of myself as strong enough to beat them, whether I'd try to beat them etc. generally they wanted me to attack them and they did barely reach to my chest or so, were several years younger.
    I buried their corpses in the forest afterwards. Of course I told them I wouldn't fight them.
    To be honest, they were so eager I suspected some sort of trap, I thought if I were stupid enough to touch them they'd probably send their big brothers' gang to beat the living **** out of me and have a great laugh or sth.
    Wait that was because they asked me whether I had any big friends or a big brother etc.
    It was one of the weirdest encounters I remember and I was happy they didn't enter the bus as I did when it finally came because they really got on my nerves with their nagging.
    I've had someone who really wanted to beat me up for looking at him as well though I was a bit younger back then.
    Shoot them and bury them in the forest. Mediation and self-control Bijo, or live and let live.
    Don't get so emotional over some loitering kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Husar, who loiters in front of his PC half the day.
    Half?
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    I once had two young guys at a bus stop in the village where my parents live and they started asking me questions.
    That wanted to know whether I thought of myself as strong enough to beat them, whether I'd try to beat them etc. generally they wanted me to attack them and they did barely reach to my chest or so, were several years younger. [...]
    Not too long ago I saw a TV program where they discussed impulsive street violence. What made thugs choose a random someone and beat the crap out of him. The proposition was that the victim was in part responsible for being singled out. (not implying that the fault of the violence was the victim's).

    The guy who in Glasgow had been assaulted for no obvious reason was brought in together wih three other people (one girl). Some sensors was placed on their bodies and they walked in front of a camera showing their body outlined as dots.
    They showed the recordings to an audience of street people and to a panel of self defence instructors. All agreed that the Glaswegian's posture and the way he walked showed obvious signs of weakness, both in strenght and character. This is what predators do.. they single out the weakest before making their move.
    After a few lessons with the defence instructors, they recorded the same sequence and this time they chose a completely different person as the weakest.

    Husar... maybe you should do something about your posture ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    Husar... maybe you should do something about your posture ??
    I think my posture and self-esteem have changed since that happened and even then I wasn't really afraid of those two kids.
    It's a very nice research you have there but scientifically I shouldn't have been born most likely as I use to fall into the worst corner whenever "animal behaviour" and "genetic predisposition" are mentioned, has to be a wonder I haven't been eaten alive on the street yet or maybe I'm just above the animal behavior that most simpletons seem to follow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    I think my posture and self-esteem have changed since that happened and even then I wasn't really afraid of those two kids.
    It's a very nice research you have there but scientifically I shouldn't have been born most likely as I use to fall into the worst corner whenever "animal behaviour" and "genetic predisposition" are mentioned, has to be a wonder I haven't been eaten alive on the street yet or maybe I'm just above the animal behavior that most simpletons seem to follow.
    *puts on drill instructor hat**

    SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE!!!

    *growls*

    **I did train to be a drill instructor during boot camp... Alas, My big heart chose further schooling and I ended up in the Royal Norwegian Naval Signal Corps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    *puts on drill instructor hat**

    SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE!!!

    *growls*

    **I did train to be a drill instructor during boot camp... Alas, My big heart chose further schooling and I ended up in the Royal Norwegian Naval Signal Corps.
    A viking drill instructor *shudder*.

    Since you people are Christianized now there shouldn't be anything to worry about, right? However I still better not see you loitering around the coast of Briton. I don't care if your ship is considered sovereign territory or not.


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    If you'd stopped for a chat, you'd probably have got your head kicked in and been mugged. I live and work in a pretty rough part of the UK so I do know a little bit about this. These people aren't particularly good at reading body language as they usually exhibit none of their own and are poor communicators. They merely look at it as simply "1 of him 3+ of us, not from around here/doesn't fit in" and about as complex as it gets. It doesn't get much deeper. With street crime and anti-social behaviour on the up, the answer is not to "hug a hoody" but more so to actually have some real police presence and real punishment for thugs. At present the most they can expect for kicking someone half to death, stealing their belongings and filming it on their mobile phones is a slap on the wrist and six months in the slammer - out in two with good behaviour.
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