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    Default The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    I was beseiging Carthage with a small Camillan era Roman army (3/4 stack of hastatis, principes, and triari) when I was attacked and defeated by a full stack Carthaginian relief army and half stack army from the city.

    Then my army retreated the distance approximately equal to cavalry movement points of 6-8 turns. The army retreated to a naval fleet that was blockading a port on the edges of Egypt.

    So basically my army retreated from the Carthage capital to my fleet near the Egyptian border in one turn!
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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    You're lucky they didn't just disperse.


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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    Well it seems that they run for their lives, trying to reach the nearest friendly location. It happens frequently in my campaign that defeated armies retreat long distances, marching to friendly territory. And if you had not that fleet at hand the army would have been wiped out.

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    Well no, because I used manual retreat for my units that had not routed, so about 40-50% of my army had escaped intact. Even if there wasn't a fleet there, I think they just would've retreated backwards, but not nearly as far.
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    Silly RTW mechanics.
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    if there haden't been a fleet there, would they have marched all around the eastern med and the black sea, then down through the balklnas and into italy?

    Would be impresive...
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    Mao is proud of your soldiers.
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    Reminds me a greek retreat from Persia, about 5000 km fighting and being attacked but the Phalax resisted
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    The Anabasis . I've had a couple with the Bactrians except to Hercules gates back to India .


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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius Nero
    Mao is proud of your soldiers.
    Awesome. But I think my distance covered in 250 BCE, when adjusted for 2000 years of inflation, definitely outshines Mao's 8000 miles in the 1930s. :D
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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    And I thought retreating from Arretium to Epidamnos was a trek!
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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    Retreating is overpowered.

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    i remember in my old romani campaign in .80x, an AS half stack invaded and beseiged Carthage (i controlled it) after defeating them, they retreated all the way to Iuodia, the closest fiendly territory...... i defeated most of them too- just 125-150 remaining out of over 1000......
    i just didnt get it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy14
    i remember in my old romani campaign in .80x, an AS half stack invaded and beseiged Carthage (i controlled it) after defeating them, they retreated all the way to Iuodia, the closest fiendly territory...... i defeated most of them too- just 125-150 remaining out of over 1000......
    i just didnt get it.....
    Apparently, soldiers gain super-human speed powers when they're running for their lives. :D
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    they must have been Flash's ancestors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leão magno
    Reminds me a greek retreat from Persia, about 5000 km fighting and being attacked but the Phalax resisted
    Well, the 'phalanx' didn't really 'resist'. They lost a lot of men, and the phalanx itself, and the hoplites, were useless for most of the fighting they encountered in the mountains!

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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa
    Apparently, soldiers gain super-human speed powers when they're running for their lives. :D
    And I quote from Asterix and Cleopatra: 'In the attack, the Romans use the formidable tactic known as the Tortoise. In the retreat, they use the formidable tactic known as the Hare.'

    How apt.


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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa
    I was beseiging Carthage with a small Camillan era Roman army (3/4 stack of hastatis, principes, and triari) when I was attacked and defeated by a full stack Carthaginian relief army and half stack army from the city.

    Then my army retreated the distance approximately equal to cavalry movement points of 6-8 turns. The army retreated to a naval fleet that was blockading a port on the edges of Egypt.

    So basically my army retreated from the Carthage capital to my fleet near the Egyptian border in one turn!
    That's indeed completely ridiculous.

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    Default Re: The Long March - ridiculously long retreat?

    As I am a bit messy with my campaign mgmt. every now and then, I sometimes forget about the beaten & fleeing...so 50 yrs. later I wonder: Where the heck do these fellaws come from? Right in the middle of nowhere? Hmmmmm
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