Aedui wives suffer plague of headaches...

[phonicsmonkey]

hi guys

GREAT mod. Really, absolutely the best I have played for RTW (or any game for that matter). So very well done and thanks so much for that.

I'm enjoying my first EB campaign as the Aedui and I think (with the help of the Recruitment viewer) I am starting to figure out how things work.

I have just one problem though - I've played many turns (think the year is 258 BCE), my original faction leader died of old age, and most of the first generation of characters are reaching retirement age, and they have between them produced the grand total of NO children.

This is despite them all being married and spending a great deal of time at home helping out with the housework, offering to cook dinner and bringing home bunches of flowers.

Now my usual house rule is to keep the bloodline pure by refusing all "man of the hour" and adoption events, but I'm starting to worry my royal line could die out altogether and my campaign with it.

Am I missing something or do I have a botched install and need to reinstall everything?

Btw I'm using EB 1.0 with all the official bugfixes, and Ferromancer's BI.exe installer....

One more question - why are the Aedui so under...only joking

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

The Aedui were a confederation. They may have bad fertility like the Romans so that you get a wide group of characters through adoption and man-of-the-hour and so that you don't have a royal family lording over the confederation.

[phonicsmonkey]

well that makes some sense - but I don't see anything in my character's traits to suggest that...can anyone confirm?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

The fertility/infertility traits are hidden. I know the Romani have them and I think KH, but I'm not sure about the Aedui.

[phonicsmonkey]

*grumbles at impotent barbarians*

[mrtwisties]

You can't wander around naked in the snow and not expect some damage.

[Parkev]

You should think of your family tree as a collection of powerful nobles, new prominent nobles will marry in or be adopted. Remember few Celtic systems used inheritance and most posts were given through election by the sub-kings or cheifs.

The end result is that you have a stronger pool of leaders, no great warriors having dissapointing sons; you can pick and the best of the best.

[Thaatu]

The problem with this is that in my both Aedui games, the Aedui bloodline has completely vanished. In the first game the younger Aedui FM had a son, who in turn didn't get his own. In the second there were no sons for Aedui. Out of about 40 or 30 adoptees in the campaigns only one has been Aedui, and he was 58. So in my two campaigns, the first one of which went on till 205 BCE and the second one is at 190 BCE, I've had four different Aedui FMs. Most FMs have been Biturge. But I thought this was just my luck.

[phonicsmonkey]

Finally I adopted someone - I just kept refusing them until someone half-decent turned up. He happened to be Aedui, so the bloodline stays alive for now..

[Danest]

So, which of EB's cultures would most historically have been interested in keeping a pure bloodline, a "top" ethnicity, with power passed mostly from father to son? Quite a few appear to have democratic elements as far as I can tell.

[Hooahguy]

does Baktria have this problem too? of infirtility?

[Strategos Alexandros]

I wouldn't have thought so because they were a kingdom rather than a confederacy but I might be wrong as they were a satrapy at EB's start date.

[Apgad]

So, which of EB's cultures would most historically have been interested in keeping a pure bloodline, a "top" ethnicity, with power passed mostly from father to son?

It must the Ptolemies, surely. Brothers and half-brothers marrying sisters and half-sisters, uncles and aunts marrying nieces and nephews, they were "pure" well past the point of inbreeding! I think the only relationship that wasn't considered OK was father with daughter. Coz obviously all the others are fine...

[skuzzy]

I'd hit it.

[marodeur]

As far as I know, the number of children corresponds with the number of provinces you control. So I would conquer some new territories, to wich the wives of your warriors can move. I would suggest some niche, warm areas at the mediterranean coast, normally women like it there (Ariminum for example, today Rimini, orb the Baleares). Should enhance the chance of the ladies being more positively minded concerning their husbands

[phonicsmonkey]

yes, a nice holiday by the seaside might do the trick.

I know there is a link between the number of provinces and the number of family members, but i've been getting all mine by adoption and not births, that's the issue...

actually one of my family members finally had a child - the father was 59, didn't know he still had it in him the old dog

it was a girl though - meh