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    Isn't Romney a Mormon? Those are the people who believe Jesus was American and that there was an extra chapter of the bible written in english and found in 17th century America?

    You aren't seriously thinking about electing someone who believes that? Bush may be dumb, but at least he isn't completely away with the fairies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho
    Isn't Romney a Mormon? Those are the people who believe Jesus was American and that there was an extra chapter of the bible written in english and found in 17th century America?

    You aren't seriously thinking about electing someone who believes that? Bush may be dumb, but at least he isn't completely away with the fairies.
    Pindar is a Mormon. Tell me that he isn't the most apt out of all of us to be President.
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    Default Re: NRO Decides to follow the Don, endorses Romney

    No religion bashing

    If you have something to say about the political positions of this specific candidate, please feel free to do so - but I expect that you will be able to do so without gratuitously insulting a group of people on this board.

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    Default Re: NRO Decides to follow the Don, endorses Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho
    Those are the people who believe Jesus was American and that there was an extra chapter of the bible written in english and found in 17th century America?
    They believe Jesus was a Jew, but that He also visited ancient America.
    The Book of Mormon is not an extra chapter of the Bible, but is a whole record in itself seperate from the Bible.
    And it was found in the 19th century not 17th.

    hmm.. anything else? No that's it I think.
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    Exactly. We believe that he ascended into heaven and is (currently) seated to the right of god. Maybe he took a detour on the way up?

    Anyway, people who would bar a Mormon from office for intangible beliefs could, by the same logic, bar any religious Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
    Exactly. We believe that he ascended into heaven and is (currently) seated to the right of god. Maybe he took a detour on the way up?

    Anyway, people who would bar a Mormon from office for intangible beliefs could, by the same logic, bar any religious Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc.
    I would but nobody listens to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    I would but nobody listens to me
    A number of people do, actually, want that to be the case. That would only allow between 5-10% of the population in the U.S. to run for elected office. Of those 5-10%, how many of those aren't crazies themselves about other things? That probably leaves 5 or 10 people to run the whole country themselves. Doesn't seem feasible to me.
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    Sorry if I'm flogging the obvious, but there should never be a religious test for office. Oppose Romney for his record, if you like, or for his persona, but for Pete's sake don't oppose him because of the religion he was born into. Mormon beliefs only sound wacky because they're new to you. Think how you would feel about a group that gathers once a week to symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of a man who was tortured to death by Romans.

    Personally, I can live with Romney. He seems to have been effective in MA, and he doesn't strike me as an extremist. I'm willing to forgive some of the more outrageous Gah! he's been spouting in the primary ("I'd double Gitmo!") in the hopes that he's just saying what he thinks the base wants to hear.

    In other words, I'm of the same opinion as Xiahou, that the man is a closet moderate. For the X-man this means he should not be supported; for me it means the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Sorry if I'm flogging the obvious, but there should never be a religious test for office. Oppose Romney for his record, if you like, or for his persona, but for Pete's sake don't oppose him because of the religion he was born into. Mormon beliefs only sound wacky because they're new to you. Think how you would feel about a group that gathers once a week to symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of a man who was tortured to death by Romans.

    Personally, I can live with Romney. He seems to have been effective in MA, and he doesn't strike me as an extremist. I'm willing to forgive some of the more outrageous Gah! he's been spouting in the primary ("I'd double Gitmo!") in the hopes that he's just saying what he thinks the base wants to hear.

    In other words, I'm of the same opinion as Xiahou, that the man is a closet moderate. For the X-man this means he should not be supported; for me it means the opposite.
    I like your opinions, Lemur. Even when I disagree with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Sorry if I'm flogging the obvious, but there should never be a religious test for office. Oppose Romney for his record, if you like, or for his persona, but for Pete's sake don't oppose him because of the religion he was born into. Mormon beliefs only sound wacky because they're new to you. Think how you would feel about a group that gathers once a week to symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of a man who was tortured to death by Romans.

    Personally, I can live with Romney. He seems to have been effective in MA, and he doesn't strike me as an extremist. I'm willing to forgive some of the more outrageous Gah! he's been spouting in the primary ("I'd double Gitmo!") in the hopes that he's just saying what he thinks the base wants to hear.

    In other words, I'm of the same opinion as Xiahou, that the man is a closet moderate. For the X-man this means he should not be supported; for me it means the opposite.

    I´m an atheist remember... ...I feel the same way about either group...

    it´s just a matter of degree to me....but I must admit the stranger it sounds the more problems I would have in saying "sure I´ll ellect you...and btw here are the keys to the nuclear weapons".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
    Exactly. We believe that he ascended into heaven and is (currently) seated to the right of god. Maybe he took a detour on the way up?

    Anyway, people who would bar a Mormon from office for intangible beliefs could, by the same logic, bar any religious Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc.
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