The Concept of Secession

**Lemur** · 12-13-2007, 05:03

Oh, we'll rally round the flag, boys, we'll rally once again,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom,
We will rally from the hillside, we'll gather from the plain,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!

The Union forever! Hurrah, boys, hurrah!
Down with the traitors, up with the stars;
While we rally round the flag, boys, rally once again,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!

We are springing to the call of a million free men more,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!
And we'll fill our vacant ranks of our brothers gone before,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!

**Lord Winter** · 12-13-2007, 06:32

But wouldn't a ban on succesion deny the very ideals this country was founded on? I mean look at Locke and the decleration of independence. When ever a governemnt fails to perserve natural rights the agreement is null and void.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Disclaimer: I'm not supporting the south or think the Union should be torn apart except for the most heavy of causes.

**KrooK** · 12-13-2007, 15:38

Lol what are you talking about
When last time some states tried secession, there were war.

1)These states became ruined and on 10 years lost their rights
2)Big part of population was murdered/raped/robbed
3)Inner rights into states became changed.

Now would be worse IMO

**Beirut** · 12-13-2007, 15:51

If Vermont and Alaska want to secede and join Canada, that's cool. Y'all can keep the rest.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 12-13-2007, 16:16

Did you know that there is a clause in the Articles of Confederation that allows for quick annexation of Canada in the event that it would like to join the Union? They could really change voting habits in the House and Senate if they were to ever want that. Which they probably wouldn't.