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    Default Re: Any thoughts on faking a Crimean Helleno-Skythian faction?

    Depends on what the FMs you have. I think the starting spartan generals for the KH are the only FMs with an army upkeep. You can check the upkeep for your FMs bodyguards by clicking on the button that shows you details about their bodyguard unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    Depends on what the FMs you have. I think the starting spartan generals for the KH are the only FMs with an army upkeep. You can check the upkeep for your FMs bodyguards by clicking on the button that shows you details about their bodyguard unit.
    Yep, that's it. The three spartan generals have upkeep, and if I disband all other units they add up exactly to the "Army Upkeep" total shown on the faction financial summary.

    I have a pretty spectacular wages bill too, over 1000/turn, I'll have to work out where that's going and think of something to do about it. The Crimean Greeks are currently making Pontos look like a financial cakewalk...

    {edit} It appears my 1150/turn "Wages" is 100 for the spy, 50 for the diplomat, and 200 each for five FMs (whilst the spartan bodyguards are in "Army Upkeep"). At least, if I get an FM killed it drops by 200 and demolishing every possible building has no effect on it. This is more FMs than a one city faction can afford, they'd have to start with Pantikapaion + Chersonesos + Olbia to justify five FMs. Or I have to get the FM count down.
    Last edited by Morte66; 12-14-2007 at 00:27.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on faking a Crimean Helleno-Skythian faction?

    I thought it was 31 (including Saxons from tutorial) + 1 non-playable slave.

    I am likely wrong though.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on faking a Crimean Helleno-Skythian faction?

    Hi Morte 66.
    That's a really interesting starting position, even though I would have chosen a different approach and had build a fleet, sending a nice stack of troops up to the Pontos Euxinos. Good luck with your campaign and lots of fun ! May your battles be bloody and victorious. hey, probably you could present a screenshot here after some development on your map? It would also be interesting to see how things are going on in Greece without the KH around.
    Last edited by marodeur; 12-17-2007 at 16:09.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on faking a Crimean Helleno-Skythian faction?

    Quote Originally Posted by marodeur
    Hi Morte 66.
    hey, probably you could present a screenshot here after some development on your map? It would also be interesting to see how things are going on in Greece without the KH around.
    Sure. I'm having a bit of grief at the moment. I tried the modding approach, which let me change the Spartan bodyguards and prune the family tree to balance the economics. But I guess I got it wrong because when I started a new game I couldn't save for some reason. So I'm starting again and (mostly) going back to my original approach.

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    It seems to have happened "naturally" in my game. The KH have been pushed off the Greek peninsula entirely. They hold onto Rhodes, Crete and the Crimean territories while the Epirotes and Makedons (with the former gaining the upper hand now) war endlessly over Sparta and Athens.

    Of course this game has one of the most unusual map divisions I've seen since .80. The Romans have pushed a thick dagger through the middle of Gaul together with their allies the Sweboz, who hold the Normandy coast and are laying siege to the last outpost of the Aedui. The Lusotans have crossed the Pyrenees into Toulouse, the Carthaginians hold all of Magna Graecia except for Syracuse (held by the Romans), the Getai have holdings in Anatolia, Pontos holds Tylis (Byzantion remains independent), the Hai have pushed north into the fringes of the steppe only to be intercepted by the Saka, whose highly successful early blitz migration faltered with the comeback of the Sarmatians to the west and Parthians (whom they almost wiped out at one point, capturing territories as south as Khiva) and Baktrians (me) to the east snatching their earlier gains. Now they are a nomadic duchy located exclusively above the Hai .
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