The Frozen Crusade: Teutonic Order PBM

[Ferret]

battle fought and save uploaded:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1253-5.rar

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[Zim]

Nice, I'll get us through the next turn today.

[Zim]

Ok, I need to ask a question of one of the experienced KOTR players here. An army is marching on Konigsburg. I can play a battle myself (as the Hochmeister) but I need to pull troops down from Palanga to match them. Is it within my authority as a chancellor type figure to do so?

If I need permission is it from Dietrich, who the troops are currently under, or Meister Hans, who they were promised to?

[Ferret]

Usually the chancellor does decide this, AFAIK. In KotR garrisons can be used freely as the Chancellor orders but troops from Household armies or suchlike need permision to be used usually. But hey your the Faction leader and Chancellor, who's going to stop you or notice

[Zim]

Ok, just checking. Technically, I'm not sure we have "Household armies" at the moment, unless you count the troop I put under Hans and Maximillian (Max is getting those men I'm about to use, not Hans. I mistyped).

In that case, I'll fight the battle now. No more this turn, should have a report soon.

[gibsonsg91921]

Chancellors have pretty strong leeway, and a Hochmeister especially seeing as they're the faction leaders elected for life.

[Zim]

I'm starting to think I should give up on leading battles in these games. After a rather bloody battle in the woods, I thought I was doing well. Took some losses from their horsearchers, but closed in, and routed nearly their whole army (with the rest withdrawing).

Then a shot from a mangonel crew (with fire at will turned off and specifically ordered to stop firing ) killed the Hochmeister!

Somehow I got a man of the hour promotion for the Hochmeister's army. Rupert Bresch. He's taken control and is awaiting orders.

Oddly, Hans seems to have been made the heir in the prior turn. I think whoever has the highest command becomes Ordensmarschall, and he might have gotten 1 star from that last battle of his.

[Zim]

Ok, Maximillian has a battle. I should be able to upload it in a bit.

Since the Hochmeister has died, I guess I'll make the report OOC in here. Windau is safe, Hrodna has been secured. We are making some 1,000 florins in profitc per turn, and build queues are beginning to be fulfilled this turn. If Maximillian wins this next battle, which drew a city garrison out, then we will be making plenty of money.

The Hochmeister never assigned Roadkill's character (von Essen) to an Order, as he hasn't replied to my pm asking which he prefers. Rupert would prefer the Prussian Order, since Hans' having to leave it makes it a bit short.

Also, Palanga was never assigned. I meant to leave portioning out the Lithuanian territories to Orders after the war. I had planned to have the new Teutonic Order capital in the center, but hadn't decided if Palanga would be better, being on the sea, of something like Vilnius, directly in the middle of the territories we're taking.

[Warluster]

For the MP thing, should I suggest it to the Council?

[gibsonsg91921]

Yeah, outline all the details. We can implement it next session.

[Zim]

Guys, since it's the middle of the night where EF is, and he probably won't get to his battle until tomorrow, why don't we work out some of the unassigned counties and such, and start a vote on whether Rupert can finish the Schatzmeistership of Gunther?

[deguerra]

this is excellent. karl scherer felt very unappreciated so I"m going to make him a bit of a nasty meister, but don't worry his sentiments do not reflect my own.

is there any reason we shouldnt let Rupert take over as Schatzmeister?

[Zim]

this is excellent. karl scherer felt very unappreciated so I"m going to make him a bit of a nasty meister, but don't worry his sentiments do not reflect my own.

is there any reason we shouldnt let Rupert take over as Schatzmeister?

None OOC, but IC it might be a bit odd to give away such an important title to a new general, even if he does have the old one's army for the moment. I think only the Hochmeister can have the title without a vote, so it may be prudent to hold one for Rupert, since half the term has not been filled.

[deguerra]

well its not like we HAVE that many generals. as i said IC, could I OOC ask for a list of territories, generals and their positions within the order. just to make things clearer

[Zim]

If I recalle correctly gibsonsg91921 made a list like that at the beginning of one of the old game threads. Maybe he could update it?

I can put one together tonight, but I have to go in a bit.

Konigsburg is Imperial land for the time being, likely to be returned to Prussia at the end of the war. Only Thorn and Marienburg are Prussian, with the latter the capital of Prussia. There are no Prussian Counts/whatever religious orders would call them.

Livonia is the larger and wealthier of the two Orders, amusingly, since it starts with more territory and hasn't lost one to be the Order capital. I think only we are in the Prussian Order/Chapter, plus maybe the unassigned general.

[deguerra]

Counts are Komturs.

Koenigsberg would be...Order territory I suppose, but not Imperial :P

And Livonia may be larger, but Prussia is obviously the home of the order and as such more prestigious :P But I am Meister and would say that.



But thanks anyway, that gives me a bit of an overview

[Zim]

Close enough. I'll get these terms down yet. So, mein Meister, shall I be Komtur of Thorn?

[Zim]

Ok, Maximillian is up for a battle.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1254-1.zip

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Meister Maximillian, you have attacked a small Lithuanian stack near one of their cities (Sialuwhatsit). The garrison is reinforcing, andif you defeat them you'll take the city. Their forces are slightly weaker tha your (4:3) and the first force to enter the field will have no general. You can affor to use your men hard inthe battle, as Rupert Bresch is a season or so away with a huge army built by the old Hochmeister for you.

[gibsonsg91921]

do that stuff IC! the meister of thorn stuff.

[Zim]

I'm not sure it would be polite for Bresch to ask to be Komtur of Thorn IC. Of course, the announcement could be made IC.

Too bad we aren't having some sort of cataclysm, with all of the Hochmeister's old army, and the several units added from Dietrich's, my new character now leads a force by far the largest the game has seen in its short life.

[deguerra]

Komtur of thorn, Meister of Prussia. Ill get you there yet

[gibsonsg91921]

Why does Karl feel unappreciated? Is that a trait of his?

[Zim]

Well, we did send him with a mighty host to conquer a village with only florin in it.

[deguerra]

yeh he has that trait. hes also handsome and with the village thing I thought it would make for good roleplaying

[Zim]

Wow, Prussia looks a lot smaller with its territories listed out next to those of Livonia like that.

[gibsonsg91921]

yeah, kinda. Hrodna and Bialystok will go to Prussia, and Konigsburg will go back, and right now Palanga's looking like a good capital. But not yet.

[Zim]

Just wait until after the war. If Hans doesn't pull a Jan (my first character to die in a successful attack, in KOTR), then he'll have a lot of territories to apportion.

[Warluster]

I've proposed the Edict, hope it explains a lot. I've tried to RP my character as young and angry.

[Zim]

We have a lot of angry youngsters lately. I wonder how I should roleplay Rupert, with his beginning with dread.

I've proposed the Edict, hope it explains a lot. I've tried to RP my character as young and angry.

[Ferret]

???? I thought Maximilian had more command stars? I'm sure in my previous games the Ordensmarshall has always become the next Hochmeister and it's the next Ordensmarshall that is selected by command rating. Very very strange. I'll fight the battle now.

Edit: Hans starts off with one command star and Max has 4, I don't see how he could have gained so many from just tow battles.