Mass of horsies in EB

[Woreczko]

Hi!

What is the reason for EB horses to be so lightweigh? In vanilla horses weighted around 5-7 (of err... something), while in EB their mass is around 2-3. It makes cavalry charges rather ineffective in disrupting infantry formation, as pedites have more or less the same weight, as in vanilla, ie: 0.8-1.5

[Senatus Populusque Romanus]

- That way, you can preform more strategies with cavarly.
- Also the charge is effective enough already. Against Roman Italic Allies Elite infantry, or later imperial legions, a medium cavarly unit can kill 30 men at one charge while losing 10 of them.

[TWFanatic]

Just don't use wedge, it's ineffective in EB (especially on bigger unit sizes).

[antisocialmunky]

You just have to use a formed charge. I've seen Iberian lancers kill 3/4s of a unit of Triarii on the first charge and only take 3 casualties on impact.

[Tellos Athenaios]

We've had a discussion about this internally and IIRC basically it boiled down to: give them cavalry low attack + high charge values and you will see them act more as cavalry (i.e. only the very tanks will survive melee) *but* accurate horsie-mass would result in bodies flying all over your screen. So that's why the horse-mass was lowered: to make the cavalry behave.

[Woreczko]

I`m absolutely content with cavalry kill rate in charge and melee, no problem with that. The thing, that bothers me, is that I don`t see those bodies flying. I mean: cavalry charges home, sometimes it kills almost whole 1st line of infantry unit (and sometimes not) and then... just stops, as if it had hit a wall.

One of the very few advantages of Rome over Medieval 1 was IMHO introduction of mass factor. Charging cavalry, even if it didn`t kill a lot of men in the charge, would penetrate into the unit of infantry, disrupting it, sometimes even splitting it in half. It wasn` always beneficial - cav had a harder time disengaging from such a mess. But it looked cool and IMHO realistic. Head on crash with a horse WILL send you flying back, I had a pleasure of experiencing it.