Guide to Temples in Europa Barbarorum

[The General]

Thanks for the list, but...

• Shrine
  +2 Happiness
• Small Temple
  +4 Happiness
• Temple
  +6 Happiness
• Large Temple
  +8 Happiness
  
• Awesome Temple
  +1 Happiness
  +1 Trade
  +1 Morale

Eh, what?

[Ludens]

Thanks for the heads-up. It appears that during the formatting all +10 bonuses were turned into +1 bonuses. They have been corrected now.

[gurakshun]

Thanks for the heads-up. It appears that during the formatting all +10 bonuses were turned into +1 bonuses. They have been corrected now.

Ludens, I love you and this wonderful piece of work. should immediately be stickied!

[Seleukus]

5. Finally, there are several bonuses that have puzzled me. Most notably, I do not know how the loyalty bonus differs from the happiness one. Also, I am unsure what the difference is between weapon_simple and weapon_bladed. Any information on this would be appreciated.

Loyalty bonuses also decrease corruption (in addition to increasing public order.) Its very helpful if you have a large empire.

You should also note that tax bonuses are pretty much worthless, as +1 tax only translates into +1% tax income, ingame.

[jhhowell]

Loyalty bonuses also decrease corruption (in addition to increasing public order.) Its very helpful if you have a large empire.

No, you're thinking of law.

Ludens, one way that loyalty differs from happiness is that it does not affect public order. This was a common problem in 0.8 and hasn't been completely fixed in 1.0 (though it's better now). It was more common to see on unique buildings, now it's just a handful of temples which you've identified. As far as I can tell in-game, the loyalty bonus does nothing whatsoever. It's possible that it's doing something subtle that doesn't show up in the settlement display, though. I haven't bothered doing a search & replace on my EDB to make them all happiness bonuses since it's easy enough adapt in-game - either build a new type of temple, or just suck up having a weaker temple (some of the large starting Marduk temples for AS, for example).

Many thanks for putting this guide together!

[Ludens]

Thanks for the information jhhowell. I will add it when I next update the guide. Due to the Christmas holidays I've got a bit more time on my hands, so I may have a look at the temple-related traits and ancillaries as well. No promises, though.

[Biges]

Thanks for making the guide :)

[Chris1959]

Great advice thanks.
Is there anywhere that tells of the effect on characters traits, I know temple of Ceres helps with the "Popularis" trait for the Romanii, and in vanilla Temples of Venus could lead to some very nasty de-bauched drunkenness etc.

[Ludens]

I've had a look at the relevant sections of the EB trait & trigger files, and gave up after seeing that in MS word they took 160 pages. There are all sorts of interactions between the temple type, faction, worshipper-of traits, the 6 main personality traits and several other traits as well. Perhaps there is a system in there, but I didn't have the time or energy to figure it out.