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I didn't realize that the UK had that much of problem. I'm curious what our British members think on this article. Is it just the media trying to find an headline by inflating statistics or is there actually a genuine problem?
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I didn't realize that the UK had that much of problem. I'm curious what our British members think on this article. Is it just the media trying to find an headline by inflating statistics or is there actually a genuine problem?
When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
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I think comparing it to Iraq, Zimbabwe, the Congo and India is a bit harsh...
Well, of the four other nations, three were previous British colonies.
Maybe it's a cultural thing, like bad teeth care and such.
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Have you just been dumped?
I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.
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As much as i'd like to say it's just sensationalist journalism, they are kind of right.
If you're a poor kid in Britain, you're pretty much screwed. You end up having a third-class life, education, everything. Generally lose hope and give up trying, and subsequently become some oik on a council estate who constantly causes trouble and then scrounges off the state for the rest of their life. Hence the smoking, drinking and getting pregnant.
If you're middle class, you're life is much more comfortable, and you get a decent education, but at the same time you'll usually be pressured by parents and by school especially into doing well. Most middle class kids subsequently end up pretty miserable. Hence the smoking, drinking and getting pregnant.
If you're rich, well, you get live in an ivory tower away from all the troubles of the world.
Mikeus you are such a throwback to the last century!!!!
EVERY kid gets to go to University now (very wrong), there are also no class barriers (actually. reverse discrimination is being encouraged now)
It's all about your childs mentality, if your kid doesn't give abecause that is what you've taught them then yes they'll end up on the scrap heap and cost me a fortune in taxes in their council flat with 7 kids because they are looked after for life then.
If we still have classes, I'm working class and so is my wife. So how have my kids grown up having values that the rest of their friends in this "deprived" area laugh at? Their friends laugh at them because they have mortgages and don't scrounge, it's nurture not nature.
Every one of those 14 year old kids getting pissed out of their heads and causing trouble on the street corner every night of the week has the chance to go to university now. So why do you think they don't?
Speak to their parents, that's why Britain is a bad place to bring up a child now.
Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 12-17-2007 at 07:55.
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Slug - i'm not a throwback, i'm speaking from firsthand experience.
Up until last June i was attending a state school. The poorer kids were precisely as i described them - doomed. The middle class kids didn't have much future either - doomed to a life of the same boring white collar job with a pile of debt trailing them till they're 40.
And as for the rich kids, they're also as i described - completely unaware of the realties of the world, but with such a good education they didn't need to worry about it.
Obviously there are exceptions, such as your kids. I also know some poor kids who managed to pull themselves up from the hell they were born into. Unfortunately, they are very much the minority.
I agree it's like comparing apples and pears, BUT
I recognise that Britain that is described. Britain is becoming a nation of lazy, do-nothing, let your kids run riot while you sit at home spending your Giro (Government money) on super strength beer and cigarettes type of society.
The parents have no respect for anything except the Giro so why would their children know any difference? We have a generation of Poles coming to Britain now doing the jobs that these people are too well paid by the state to do themselves.
I feel sorry for a lot of the kids growing up in my country at the moment, right up to the point that I see 3 of the little 10 year old b%%%%%ds throwing bricks at my car at 12 at night when they should be at home if their parents gave aabout them.
I wouldn't want to be growing up as a child of the "oppressed poor minority" in Britain now as I would learn nothing except how to steal and disrespect.
There are exceptions to every rule of course, but the general trend is towards a crap upbringing by crap parents who have lived on benefits their whole lives so guess what? the kids think that is normal.
I'm glad that my kids are in their twenties and past the influential stage now (and if I ever caught either of them in a "hoodie" I'd beat them as only a father can do. Gay I can live with... hoodie is plain wrong).![]()
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A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn. - Blackadder
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teh old ... dude.Originally Posted by Lord Winter
Anyway I'm not surprised at all. Just go to Holland and see the difference, it's obvious why their kids are happiest. Free society man, I LOVE Holland !
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