What is the best Phalanx unit?

[olly]

Hello

I've been playing as Carthage (old time favourite faction ever who I haven't played in about a year) and I think that the Elite African Pikeman are probably the best phalanx unit I have come accross.

No Roman, Iberian or occasional Greek can get through their spears and they are very good at clearing the way into the town square. Also if needs be they are more then capable then storming walls and acting as very good sword men (they really showed up the Heavy Iberian Infantry in about the 3rd seige of Arse) who can beat principes.

Anyway I am not a person who looks at stats but having placed all phalanx factions apart from the Ptolomies and Selucids and I was just wondering if anyone knew who was the best phalanx and if I was right or not.

Thank you for your time.

[Senatus Populusque Romanus]

Elite African Phalanx is a good unit for sure.
However, i am playing as Romani and i have been fighting with Hellenic factions and Carthage.

And i have to say Makedonian Reformed Elite Phalanx is the best phalanx unit i have ever seen as enemy. They could kick ass

[Morte66]

The various elite phalanxes are not that far apart. I think functionally they're pretty much the same -- they can all stop/pin anything, and killing isn't their real job (that's for their flanking partners).

The Carthaginian Sacred Band are phenomenally armoured, but more of a showpiece unit (small numbers, limited recruiting).

Of the phalanxes you might see used substantially in a war, the Seleucid Agryaspides (Hellenic Elite Phalanx) have the best stats of any phalanx I've noticed. Though whilst I was playing Pontos the Ptolemaic elites gave me more trouble, perhaps because they seem to come in twos and threes whilst the Seleucids are spread thinner.

[antisocialmunky]

Mac reformed phalanx/KH reformed phalanx since they both are really widespread and pretty tough.

[Tellos Athenaios]

The latter is basically copy-pezhetairoi from my experience, and the latter is simply not as good as Argyraspides.

I think Argyraspides at least if you play as the AS, are the very best as a unit of the entire game: relatively wide AOR (Alexandreia, Antiocheia, Charax, Babylon, Seleukeia in the East + East shore of the Aigean, and Pella + Demetrias in the west) and basically just as capable as any other elite phalanx.

But the absolute best are the Misthophoroi Phalangitai: they are extremely widespread and very capable too.

[Lysander13]

If were talking about a phalanx unit with a relatively wide AOR, then i agree with TA. However, if were talking about just one unit regardless of recruitment and just pure stats....IIRC, The Chaeonion Agema may very well be the best. Top 5 for sure.....( Unless i'm completely confusing their stat line with another unit... )

[antisocialmunky]

The latter is basically copy-pezhetairoi from my experience, and the latter is simply not as good as Argyraspides.

I think Argyraspides at least if you play as the AS, are the very best as a unit of the entire game: relatively wide AOR (Alexandreia, Antiocheia, Charax, Babylon, Seleukeia in the East + East shore of the Aigean, and Pella + Demetrias in the west) and basically just as capable as any other elite phalanx.

But the absolute best are the Misthophoroi Phalangitai: they are extremely widespread and very capable too.

Quantity has a quality all its own.