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    My subjective opinion of Turks is that, like many countries, they have good cuisine but are too nationalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious Mental
    My subjective opinion of Turks is that, like many countries, they have good cuisine but are too nationalist.
    Well living in a country ruled by the generals doesnt leave much room for openmindness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellenes
    Well living in a country ruled by the generals doesnt leave much room for openmindness...
    Merry Xmas my Hellenic Friend. Thank you for posting your opinion. Nowadays we would be fortunate to be ruled by the Generals because right now we are ruled by Radical Islamists who are the puppets of the U.S. How these guys cooperate in some contexts and fight each other in somewhere else is ironic, isn't it? But we will destroy all our internal and external enemies in this life or the next.

    By the way do you guys still have the same education system that raises all Greeks for hating Turks. Most of the Turkish people have nothing against Greeks.
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    Whoa, whoa... before this delicious bout of Balkan ethnodrama begins, I'd just like to say: don't waste your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baba Ga'on
    Whoa, whoa... before this delicious bout of Balkan ethnodrama begins, I'd just like to say: don't waste your time.
    Well I need that. I have to see the mechanism behind how particular groups of people form opinions about and judge the "Other". The book I am going to write about will nothing to have with Middle Eastern and Balkan people but still different mechanisms might apply to contexts. In short I am trying to read between the lines here. So please start the melodrama. I appreciate every opinion posted here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mete Han
    Merry Xmas my Hellenic Friend. Thank you for posting your opinion. Nowadays we would be fortunate to be ruled by the Generals because right now we are ruled by Radical Islamists who are the puppets of the U.S. How these guys cooperate in some contexts and fight each other in somewhere else is ironic, isn't it? But we will destroy all our internal and external enemies in this life or the next.

    Speaking about "the other." I'd really like to see you defend this statement. After all, these radical islamist puppets were so gracious as to allow the 4th Infantry Division to invade Iraq from Turkey, right? Perhaps you should post your subjective opinion about the Turks.


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    Might I ask who the "Balkans" really are? I never knew what it is until after you mentioned it. Are they against Islam? Or do you mean they (the Greeks) are raised to hate Turks and not their religion? Sorry, I'm lost.

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    Balkans is a term for Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Yugoslavia, parts of Hungary and Romania.

    Well, the Greeks and most Balkan nations hate the Turks because until the 1800s the entire region was under Turkish control, and the Turks (to my knowledge) repressed the Greek/Romanian Orthodox Christian religion. This got alot of Greeks angry, to they eventually rose up against the Turks, with aid from Britain and France.

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    Ah, I see. Just one of those historical conflicts that are still around today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Speaking about "the other." I'd really like to see you defend this statement. After all, these radical islamist puppets were so gracious as to allow the 4th Infantry Division to invade Iraq from Turkey, right? Perhaps you should post your subjective opinion about the Turks.
    I am sorry Vlad. I couldn't understand your point. Do you mean that these guys cannot be radical Islamists since they let US invade Iraq through Turkey? Do you not know other radical Islamists such as Saudi Arabia are US puppets (and even once Al Quaida were). The thing is, the US is supporting radical islamists in the region in order to undermine the order in the region so that they can insewrt more power on the weak governments. Unfortunately with money coming from Saudi Arabia who are the puppets of the US. the Islamists in Turkey literally buy poor people's votes and in return they obey the US. However, ironically, in the beginning of the Iraq invasion the Islamist government could not grant the right for the US troops to invade Iraq through Turkey and they were very much critised by the US. Nobody trusted the Islamist government those days because of their organic ties with the US and Saudi Arabia and other state institutions left the government alone in this decision so the right was not granted by then. So do not make the mistake to think that all radical Islmaists are anti US in middle east. Actually they were all founded by the US in order to counter the pro communist movement in the region and still today they have organic ties with the US. Politics in the Middle East is quite confusing but the thing is you have to look at what the leaders are doing in order to understand what the radical Islamists are, not what mere citizens think.

    Did I miss the question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mete Han
    Merry Xmas my Hellenic Friend. Thank you for posting your opinion. Nowadays we would be fortunate to be ruled by the Generals because right now we are ruled by Radical Islamists who are the puppets of the U.S. How these guys cooperate in some contexts and fight each other in somewhere else is ironic, isn't it? But we will destroy all our internal and external enemies in this life or the next.

    By the way do you guys still have the same education system that raises all Greeks for hating Turks. Most of the Turkish people have nothing against Greeks.
    Well I cant take the position that Turks dont hate the Urums (Romans-Byzantines-Greeks) lightly....
    When you have the ultra right nationalistic paramilitary organization Boz Gurts in your nominal parliament and ultra right extremist ideas dominating your political landscape....I dont even add your sad idolising and personal cult of Mustafa Kemal in a very scary way resembling Hitler/Stalin's personal cult...
    Its so bizzare and disturbing to see how Kemal is higher than Allah in Turkey...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellenes
    Well I cant take the position that Turks dont hate the Urums (Romans-Byzantines-Greeks) lightly....
    When you have the ultra right nationalistic paramilitary organization Boz Gurts in your nominal parliament and ultra right extremist ideas dominating your political landscape....I dont even add your sad idolising and personal cult of Mustafa Kemal in a very scary way resembling Hitler/Stalin's personal cult...
    Its so bizzare and disturbing to see how Kemal is higher than Allah in Turkey...
    Okay now I see that you have some kind of prejudice against Turkey and Turkish people which is totally normal. Is this because you fear that Turkish paramilitary groups might attack Greece some day? This is exactly the point in your psychology that I would like to grasp and understand. Do Greeks hate or have prejudice against Turks because they fear Turks might attack one day?
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