Funny realization occured...

**Decimus Attius Arbiter** · 12-21-2007, 08:32

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Yeah... that was pretty retarded... but atleast someone got fired for it. The book was like 100x and is actually required reading for Westpoint and the cartoon is atleast 10x better.

I do find myself yelling at a fair share of movies but I'll over look it if it has a good story and is mildly entertaining.

It's a love it or hate it film. I actually was bored and put the book down. Unemotional and too detailed for what actually goes on in the book. Liked the power armor though and how the capital ships shot them towards the ground. Yeah the marine corp has taken a love to the book the second it was published. They're even trying to create the stuff in the book.

It's easier to overlook the tactical thing when you see the movie as a parody which is the obvious intention.

**tapanojum** · 12-21-2007, 09:00

Originally Posted by Decimus Attius Arbiter

It's a love it or hate it film. I actually was bored and put the book down. Unemotional and too detailed for what actually goes on in the book. Liked the power armor though and how the capital ships shot them towards the ground. Yeah the marine corp has taken a love to the book the second it was published. They're even trying to create the stuff in the book.

It's easier to overlook the tactical thing when you see the movie as a parody which is the obvious intention.

I guess I should of realized this when the guy was riding a bug like a bull, shot through its back, threw a grenade into it. Then later climbed down and said he was captain of his football team...ha

**Beefy187** · 12-21-2007, 09:07

I hate it when the hero gets captured instead of getting killed strait away.

**tapanojum** · 12-21-2007, 09:21

Originally Posted by Beefy187

I hate it when the hero gets captured instead of getting killed strait away.

I hate it when in movies the hero is about to get killed...but for some reason the bad guy talks for 15 minutes and takes another 20 to thrust the sword or pull the trigger...which by this time..the entire town is there to stop him/her.

**Pharnakes** · 12-21-2007, 09:51

I hate hiow people always boast, good and bad.

And then it aways goes wrong. WHat do you expect if you take half an hour to tell your enemy your secrets?

Morons. Imbeciles. Guilble idiots.

**J.Alco** · 12-21-2007, 12:39

IMO the only film that comes close to representing realistic historic combat is Alexander (not a great film, I know, but the battle scenes are masterpieces).

And I agree, with Narnia, the kid (what was his name?) in charge of the army could have done it SO much better. For god's sake man! You've got rocky terrain behind you and a cliff at your back! You wanna neutralize superior numbers look no further you douchebag!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

Now I had been in charge, there woulda been some changes in that army I can tell ya!

**tapanojum** · 12-21-2007, 12:50

Originally Posted by J.Alco

IMO the only film that comes close to representing realistic historic combat is Alexander (not a great film, I know, but the battle scenes are masterpieces).

And I agree, with Narnia, the kid (what was his name?) in charge of the army could have done it SO much better. For god's sake man! You've got rocky terrain behind you and a cliff at your back! You wanna neutralize superior numbers look no further you douchebag!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

Now I had been in charge, there woulda been some changes in that army I can tell ya!

He had Gryphon's carrying freaking boulders and dropping them on the army....pinpoint and mobile siege . Imagine if he fought inside the valley where the enemy is funneled into, and massed together and THEN dropping those boulders..

...stupid lil kid

**gosam** · 12-27-2007, 01:30

Originally Posted by Pharnakes

I hate hiow people always boast, good and bad.

And then it aways goes wrong. WHat do you expect if you take half an hour to tell your enemy your secrets?

Morons. Imbeciles. Guilble idiots.

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**Spotted Pig** · 02-06-2008, 15:26

Originally Posted by gosam

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I second!
A must for every dictator!

What's really annoying is battles where they only fire one or two volleys of arrows before the infantry charge. But I guess they don't want to waste every arrow they have in fear of not having any at all the next battle. But in major battles where it's a win or loose scenario I can't see why they wouldn't use all their arrows, I'd rather use them all in order to crush the enemy and have none (or just a few) for a later, minor battle.

And one ending I hated from the start is the one in 300. Sure, it's the only way for Xerxes to beat them but I mean, the SPORTSMANSHIP! Bah!

**NeoSpartan** · 12-28-2007, 19:11

Funny realization occured... my PC broke

and my bro's PC can't handle EB

**Reno Melitensis** · 12-28-2007, 23:22

One movie that show good tactical sense and realism is the old Spartacus movie staring Kirk Douglas. In the last battle Spartacus deployed his army on top of a hill, while Crasus army marched up hill, every cohort quite visible. The battle begins with the Romans sending their scouts uphill, the Atesigniani, while the rebels throw fired hey balls down hill. Then while the legions go uphill in an ordinary faction the rebels charge downhill ( they had no other choice, they where already domed ), smashing in the legions, and a chaotic hand to hand erupts, qiute a battle the gladiators are taught to win, but in the end superior number on the roman side wins the day.

Braveheart is the worst, both battles are wrong depicted, the Scots infantry is wrongly depicted. Arthur too is wrongly done , but the best one is that of the Sarmation firing his arrow at a target he is not seeing, hiding in a tree and score a perfect hit, but at least the Saxons knew what a shieldwall was.

Cheers

**JeffBag** · 12-30-2007, 11:32

Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis

One movie that show good tactical sense and realism is the old Spartacus movie staring Kirk Douglas.

That Spartacus movie was incredible indeed; no retarded kungfu nonsense or whatever, the gladiators actually using tactics, and rolling logs down a hill to disrupt the legions, and no stereotypical character portrayal.

Another great movie was The Longest Day, about the D-Day. The German army was well portrayed, the firefights were realistic, ranging from the minor nighttime skirmishes of the US and British airborne and glider units, to the near suicidal ranger attack at Pont du Hoc, and finally to the beach landings and the attacks into the cities and towns near the end of the movie.

Oh, and the portrayal of the Russians in Enemy at the Gates was a little too extreme; true that deserters were shot, but the Red Army was never sent on blatant suicide rushes like that by the time of Stalingrad; Red Army tactics and doctrines was probably the best in Europe had Stalin not purged his army so terribly. Also, the depiction of the neatly uniformed soldiers given sharing one rifle between two, is grossly inaccurate too. The Mosin-Nagant was produced since 1891 and they had huge stocks of it in the armory. They probably had more rifles than uniforms, since the uniform was a much more recent change I believe. Also, the fighting in Stalingrad in the movie was ludicrous, I mean, there are dancing Russians at night? Just like both sides agreed to a ceasefire every night it would seem, and the buildings around them were all so empty. In reality, fighting was round the clock and very confused; buildings everywhere were occupied since being anywhere else was blatant suicide, and it was also not uncommon to have Germans on one floor, and the Russians on another, right in the same building, fighting for days.