Alexander-an Albanian?

[Moosemanmoo]

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.c...ideoid=7359639


I'm actually stunned by the lack of intelligence in this argument, either this is one patriotic dumbass with false beliefs, or a secret genuis, decide for yourself


I almost brought myself to flame, just couldn't really be bothered to
try and educate these people, would be a waste of time.

[Cyclops]

I think Alexander's mother and father would have called themselves hellenes. Olympias was from the country of Achilles and Hellen from whom the Hellenes get their name, so you can't be more Hellenic than that. Phillip claimed descent from Argive heraclids, and spent time as a youth in Thebes, a hostage among the sacred band, so he was definitely "greek" after that.

As for his DNA, we're all mongrels, and I have no doubt the blood of Macedonian pikemen and companions flows in the veins of people in Tirana, Skopje and Thessalonika. Herodotus mentions every second city in Greece was founded by a Phoenician or an Egyptian or a Lydian etc so many Hellenes admitted their mixed ancestry. The Athenians he described as descended from the Pelsagians, who are often claimed as the pre-Greek autocthones.

Hellenism was a cultural identity and does not serve nationalism well. However claiming Alexander for one narrow modern group is a sad joke.

I think if you revived Alexander today somehow, and found a language he could understand, and you asked him his identity, he'd probably slap you to your knees and say "I am a god, and Great King of Persia".

Funny you never hear the Iranians claim him as one of theirs, but thats what he wanted to be.

[Long lost Caesar]

I think if you revived Alexander today somehow, and found a language he could understand, and you asked him his identity, he'd probably slap you to your knees and say "I am a god, and Great King of Persia".

Definitely what he'd say. Caesar would be right behind him with a back hand ready.

[russia almighty]

They wouldn't be back handing if I introduced there knee caps to my Glock-30 .



Remember kids whether if they come from the past ,future or from another planet ; if there hostile let your gat do the talking .

[Hax]

Who cares?

"To me every good Barbarian is a Greek, and every bad Greek a barbarian"

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Balkans are the playground of the ultra-nonsensical nationalism Olympiads by Albanian, Slavic and Greek fanatics. In the process, not only knowledge, including historical, but the whole land is wasted.
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[russia almighty]

Well that kinda happens when everyone and there mother has had at least one successful invasion into the region in the last 200 years .

NATO bombed the shit out of Serbia , the Russian's had there fun , the German's twice pillaged through , hell the Italian's even had one attempt.

[Urnamma]

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Balkans are the playground of the ultra-nonsensical nationalism Olympiads by Albanian, Slavic and Greek fanatics. In the process, not only knowledge, including historical, but the whole land is wasted.
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Agreed.

[Sakkura]

This whole pastime of boosting your national ego with some hero from centuries or millennia ago doesn't really make much sense to me. "Yay, my country had a great general 2300+ years ago, now it doesn't matter if we have civil wars and ethnic rioting, or if our kids have to cross mine fields on their way to school!"

[Moosemanmoo]

Caesar was chinese

I have proof, I just dont want to show you

[M to the A]

Common you guys, you don't believe Alexander was an Albanian? This Albanian 'historicus' will explain what's up: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=f60v-nsHfnY I wonder if they teach this in Albanian schools?

[cmacq]

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Balkans are the playground of the ultra-nonsensical nationalism Olympiads by Albanian, Slavic and Greek fanatics. In the process, not only knowledge, including historical, but the whole land is wasted.
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I don't judge, cause...
thats just how I am, I just don't judge, but...

Amen Mouzafphaerre.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I'm not judging actually, but pitying, sympathizing etc. But I see your point, I think.
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[Sarkiss]

reminded me of an effort by nowadays Azerbaijan which claim its decendance from Atropatene, Caucasian Albania...

[Geoffrey S]

reminded me of an effort by nowadays Azerbaijan which claim its decendance from Atropatene, Caucasian Albania...

Kinda curious, but are you Armenian?

[Horst Nordfink]

Well, that was some poorly thought out nonsense.

[Maksimus]

This is a political issue - it should not be on this forum, Albania claims pretensions on Greek land's by these kind of nonsenses for years now

[cmacq]

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I'm not judging actually, but pitying, sympathizing etc. But I see your point, I think.
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Actually, this is a sick joke of mine. In truth, I don't think you could find a more judgmental person than me. Please don't get me started. Political issue, please. I see chunks of issues way bigger than these in my loo every morning. And...

Mouzafphaerre, I agree with you 900 %, if of course, its a judgment?

Overwise, I'm far too pragmatic to give a care.

[Thaatu]

The issue in my mind is that you can't backtrace geneology this way. Alexander lived before the Albanians, so it's impossible to say he was one. It could work the other way around, with Albanians claiming to be descendents of Alex, but there's a slight problem with that...

Thank god we Finns have no excuses for our lack of heritage.