Unrelenting Psycho Merchants

[Galain_Ironhide]

Does anyone know how many turns a merchant has to be sitting on his trade resource before he has the monopoly?

[Daveybaby]

It's random... ish. Every turn your merchants monopolise a resource there is a percentage chance that they will gain a level. By the way, IIRC you are only monopolising a resource if there are two (or more) of the same resource type in the same province, and you have merchants sitting on both of them.

Edit : correction, there seems to be no random element involved - it's 20 turns to get to monopolist level (see below).



Here's a repost of something i wrote ages ago:

More on merchant skill levels
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Natural Skill
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On creation of a merchant, you have:
1/2 chance of skill level 1
1/3 chance of skill level 2
1/6 chance of skill level 3

This is completelty independent of any buildings etc you may have


Merchant's Guild effects
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If the player has a master merchant's guild, or a guild HQ anywhere in their empire, then all created merchants get skill bonuses:

Master Guild : Merchants Guild Trained Trait : +1 Skill
Guild HQ : Merchants Guild Member Trait : +2 Skill


Legal/Shady Dealer Traits
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On creation of a merchant, if the settlement has a town hall or better, there is a chance of the merchant having the legal dealer trait:
1/2 chance of no trait
1/3 chance of skill +1
1/6 chance of skill +2

The inverse of this is, if the settlement does NOT have at least a town hall in it, the merchant instead has a chance of aquiring the shady dealer trait:
1/2 chance of no trait
1/3 chance of skill -1
1/6 chance of skill -2


Religious Merchant Trait
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On creation of a merchant, if a cathedral or better is present at the settlement, then there is a chance of the merchant aquiring this trait:
1/2 chance of no trait
1/3 chance of skill -1
1/6 chance of skill -2


Monopolist Trait
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Every turn that your merchant monopolises trade in a region then the value of this trait is increased.

Value 5 to 9 -> Skill +1
Value 10 to 19 -> Skill +2
Value 20 or more -> Skill +3


Aquisition Skills (good merchant trait)
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For every successful aquisition your merchant makes, this value goes up by 1

Value 1 -> Skill +1
Value 2 to 3 -> Skill +2
Value 4 to 7 -> Skill +3
Value 8 or more -> Skill +4


Failed Aquisitions (bad merchant trait)
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For every unsuccessful aquisition attempt by your merchant, there is a 1/3 chance that the value will go down by 1 (this is tied to the good merchant trait above).

Value -1 to -2 -> Skill -1
Value -3 to -5 -> Skill -2
Value -6 or less -> Skill -3

Dont worry too much about the bad merchant trait - if youve failed enough aquisitions in a row to get a significant value to this trait, chances are your merchant will have been eliminated in the process. In order to get skill -3 your merchant will have had to fail 18 (on average) consecutive attempts, and yet not have been eliminated - pretty unlikely.


Making Enemies
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Every time your merchant performs a successful aquisition mission, they have 25% chance of increasing the value of this trait.

Value 1 or 2 -> Personal Security -1
Value 3 to 5 -> Personal Security -2
Value 6 or more -> Personal Security -4

In theory this makes more highly skilled merchants easier to assassinate - in practice this will probably just cancel out some of the effects of the skill level rise itself.


Surviving Aquisitions (secure merchant trait)
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Every time your merchant survives an aquisition attempt by another merchant, they have a 50% chance of gaining an increase in the value of this trait.

Value 1 or 2 -> Skill +1
Value 3 or more -> Skill +2


Surviving Assassinations
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Every time a merchant survives assassination, they have a 50% chance of increasing the value of this trait

Value 1 or 2 -> Personal Security +1
Value 3 or more -> Personal Security +2, Finance -1

Note the -1 to finance. If you repeatedly attempt assassinations on enemy merchants they will eventually lose 1 finance. However, i'm not sure it's really worth the effort.


Worldly Merchant Trait
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Trading a resource far away from your capital (distance >= 40) has a 20% chance to increase the value for this trait each turn.

Value 1 or 2 -> Skill +1
Value 3 or more -> Skill +2


Self Serving Merchant
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If your merchant is very far away from your capital (distance >= 60) then he has a 3% chance every turn of increasing the value of this trait.

Value 1 or 2 -> Skill -1
Value 3 or more -> Skill -2

Moral : dont let your merchants get too far from your capital, unless its really worth it for the money.


Ancillaries
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There are 3 merchant ancillaries, each of while can only be obtained at initial creation of the merchant, and each of which gives +1 to finance skill.

Counterfeiter - 15% chance to obtain this if the settlement where the merchant is trained has an Alchemists Lab

Merchant Clerk - 50% chance to obtain this if the settlement where the merchant is trained has an Alchemy School or greater

Trick Abacus - 5% chance to obtain this if the settlement where the merchant is trained has a Town Hall or greater (note - this trigger occurs twice in v1.1 - so this probably increases the chances to around 10%)


Notes
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w.r.t. the Legal Dealer Trait mentioned by Foz above -
this trait seems to be bugged in that it seems to be impossible to get the second level of the trait (trigger adds 1 to make a total of 2, but the threshold is 3)

There is a trait series called 'Exotic Tastes' mentioned in the game textfiles, which gives penalties to finance skill and personal security. However, i havent found any triggers listed for this trait.


Caveat: all of the above stuff is (i think) from vanilla 1.0 of the game. Some stuff may have been tweaked in the patches.

[Quillan]

One small correction, Davy. You do not have to have merchants trading both identical resources to earn points toward monopolist; there simply has to be no foreign merchant trading the other resource. As long as you keep them away you can earn the trait with a single merchant.

[Daveybaby]

Wow, never knew that Quillan, thanks. Is it correct that it's limited to territories with 2 identical resources?

[Quillan]

As far as I know. There's nothing in the files that tells you anything; I just know from observation. Start a campaign as England, create a merchant in London first thing, and send him to the sheep in Nottingham just north of London. 5 turns later he'll have Capitalist. But once as Byzantium I stuck a new merchant on the wine in Rhodes, and he never got the trait before he died of old age. It has to be 2 resources in the province.

[MerlinusCDXX]

yeah, merchants seem way imbalanced...i mean a lvl 5 or 6 merchant has only a 20% or less chance of successfully acquiring a lousy lvl 2 or 3 merchant, but that same lvl 2 or 3 AI merchant nearly always acquires my lvl 4 or 5 guild trained merchants...yeah right...the AI cheats. period, end of story

c'mon CA, why include a feature if the player can't ever get it to work. I understand making the game challenging, but this is just ridiculous. I don't even bother with merchants anymore

[_Tristan_]

One small correction, Davy. You do not have to have merchants trading both identical resources to earn points toward monopolist; there simply has to be no foreign merchant trading the other resource. As long as you keep them away you can earn the trait with a single merchant.

I can confirm this for sure for even checked in my last few turns as France...

[Kansas Bear]

Religious Merchant Trait
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On creation of a merchant, if a cathedral or better is present at the settlement, then there is a chance of the merchant aquiring this trait:
1/2 chance of no trait
1/3 chance of skill -1
1/6 chance of skill -2

Does this include Mosques, for the Islamic factions?

[Daveybaby]

Does this include Mosques, for the Islamic factions?

Doesnt look like it from the textfiles. The trigger is specifically >= cathedral, which doesnt include the mosque line of buildings. For that matter, i dont think it will occur for orthodox factions either, since the orthodox equivalent is cathedral_o - actually a completely different building, even though it's still called a cathedral in game.

And there doesnt seem to be an equivalent trait for the muslim/orthodox merchants.

So, catholic only then.