Factions you miss the most

[Hax]

plus dump the Koinon Hellenon and replace them with just Rhodes.

HERESY!

[CirdanDharix]

HERESY!

Why? the existence of the Chremonidean League is questionable in 272BCE, and in any case it didn't last much more than a decade...Athenian power was definately ended by the defeat, Sparta was dormant for a generation between the death of Akrotatos and the reforms of Agis, but Rhodes remained untouched by, a major naval power and a major trading centre. Rhodes remained important throughout a large part of the period covered, the Chremonidean League didn't. The Northern League would be a much better choice for a league of Greek poleis banding together to defend their freedom, something the Euxinean poleis managed to do with some success, unlike Athens and Sparta.

[Hax]

You are right, of course, about the existence of the Chremonidean league, I believe he issued his decree in 265 BC.

But the same goes for the Satrapies of Baktria and Parthia. People like me like to play with such factions, and 272 was the most balanced date the EB team could pick, even if it doesn't allow historic accuracy. Nor is it historically accurate that Baktria conquered the old Seleukid Empire or that Pyrrhos destroyed the Romans.

Games like EB aren't all about doing everything historical. It's about playing a game, altering world history in a historically accurate way.

[CirdanDharix]

Oh, I agree with you. But why would Pergamon or the Northern poleis be less fun than the KH we have now?

[Beefy187]

Like someone alse said Pergamon would be pretty much like KH. So I doubt that would be a option

Bosphorian how ever would be a nice edition to avoid the sweboz moving east so that would be awesome (Bartix would do fine as well )

I kinda got the idea of Europa barbarorum the west. Focusing more on the west with more nake barbarians while Rome and Carthage possibly with KH and Mak fighting for power in the meditteranian. Everything on east of Byzantium didnt do much anyways.

[Gaius Valerius]

personally i miss the bosphorian kingdom, pergamom and syracuse.

i'm just to big a fan of hellenic factions . imagine the attalids marching down to antioch or the syracusians to rome... sweet stuff.

all factions included now are fine by me, even the casse, though if they really were to drop some -hypothetically, it'd be the casse...

[Cyclops]

I miss the Numidians from RTW and RTR, they were a very intersting tough faction, and gave pain to the Kartis.

They're on my wish list along with an Indian faction (Mauryan Western Governors faction? Sooo sexy) but neither has a great claim ahead of ther many other excellent proposed factions above.

Its is absolutely appropriate that they were dropped, I understand all the balance/realism arguments, but they are the ones I miss.

Its a good point that the scripted Alpine rebs work a treat, so Numidia might be represented the same way (or are they in there already?). I have a sneaking suspicion you could drop Saba for scripted rebs from 99% of players games and no-one would notice for years.

3 more slots? I guess another German/Celtic faction recomends itself first and foremost: its not my favourite area but I can see the sense of it. The map is crying out for it. For balance you might want to make them an eastern or even alpine faction, and swap the Sweboz for a faction a little further west or north (Cimbri? Chatti?).

Skythians or Bosphorans also have a claim as an intermittently active force. They'd offset a Bastarnae faction, but with such a glut in the northern Balkans the heat would be on the Getai to make it through to their historic end date.

The voyeur in me wants to see some more greek states split out of the silver death, but 1 city factions in the mosh pit of Aegean death would add only brief interest. Maybe a second iberian faction, just to add a little chorizo to the western end of the map.

Or we could scap all non-Italian factions for scripted Eleutheroi and set up 20 or so allied Roman families each with a micro city outside Rome. Hot Hastati-on-Hastati action.