Poll for Grand Campaign Hotseat 2 players

**Zim** · 02-19-2008, 05:37

Hey everyone.

I've been thinking a lot about the role of assassins in hotseat games. Assassin wars can add an extra dimension to a game (see the Crusades game for an example) and result in shocking twists (like the alleged assassination of a Norse King in the Britannia game).

However, there is some possibility of abuse. In the Kingdoms games most factions start out decent sized and fairly well developed. The very smallest I've seen are in the Britannia and even they are about as largest as the biggest starting factions in the Grand Campaign.

When you only have two family members, an assassin spam can easily take out your faction. I've been thinking that maybe the GHC2 could do with a temporary ban on assassinating faction leaders, effective for maybe the first 20-30 turns or so, where everyone is consolidating into fewer, bigger factions.

What do you guys think? Is it a good idea? Is the faction leader bonus against assassins already big enough to make this a nonissue? Any input is welcome.

**phonicsmonkey** · 02-19-2008, 05:42

sorry, I just voted in this without realising it was just for GCH2 players...(even though it says so clearly in the thread title)

stoopid monkey - remove 1 yes vote from your final tally...

**gibsonsg91921** · 02-19-2008, 05:47

well, i think assassins are good, but they often fail. it would take some serious assassining to wipe out a faction. just adopt more! haha

**Zim** · 02-19-2008, 05:53

That's what I've been trying to decide on. I've seen assassins do eerily well, and even take out a faction heir, and when most factions are still small adoptions are rare.

However, Faction leaders have an even larger bonus to personal security than heirs, so maybe it's not enough of a risk to be a concern.

Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921

well, i think assassins are good, but they often fail. it would take some serious assassining to wipe out a faction. just adopt more! haha

**phonicsmonkey** · 02-19-2008, 06:05

Originally Posted by Zim

I've seen assassins do eerily well, and even take out a faction heir.

You saw nothing! Prince Magnus died of a heavy cold...

**Zim** · 02-19-2008, 06:06

I'll keep that in mind.

If anyone is wondering, I voted "gah".

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

sorry, I just voted in this without realising it was just for GCH2 players...(even though it says so clearly in the thread title)

stoopid monkey - remove 1 yes vote from your final tally...

Sure he did.

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

You saw nothing! Prince Magnus died of a heavy cold...